Mirai tree sale

[leatherback]

I don't underestimate him at all.

Sorry. I realize I quoted your post. I meant it more in general.

Yet,this thread is burning up. Maybe someone should make a thread about the sale.

 

[pandacular]

He is certainly very professorial. And if there's anything my professors had in common, it was an unwillingness to give simple answers or "get straight to the point"... for better or worse.

 

[Scorpius]

So only arsty/upty people are allowed to purchase his trees?

 

[leatherback]

So only arsty/upty people are allowed to purchase his trees?

Nope. As long your your credit card does not max out, you are in business.

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Does anyone own a tree of his from a previous sale?

 

[BobbyLane]

So.. Leeettsss all chill, and get this baby back on track to the good stuff. Mirai Trees. Love or hate Ryan, the trees created are really cool and I do not know of many people on this forum that can beat the insight and technical abilities, so.. I wanne see trees, learn from them and discuss their horrible prices because I am too cheap to ever invest 10K in a tree.

When can we expect the Mirai sale trees to start appearing online?
Do I understand correctly they will only be posted on instagram? Or .. no.. they must have a sales pages on their website at some point?

I think Mach is right up there, very close to Ryan's level.

Ryan continuously states that his intent with Mirai is not to sell trees, but to teach and empower enthusiasts into saying "I can do this"... that's the whole point of the streams, Q&A's, etc... but as any business or bonsai collector, he can only maintain so many trees. In addition, every ones time is not free, so the time dedicated to style, water, maintain, fertilize, etc... should be added to the price of the tree being sold.

Last year we went through this same argument, and I posted pre-bonsai trees being sold at the same time by Brussles and Wigerts that were at the same price Mirai was asking, but they also were at a "rawer" stage of development. People see the price and scream murder, without taking the time to do some research and see if they can get the same tree at a cheaper price. A lot of the trees that sell within minutes are usually bought by people that have done the research and know what trees they can get somewhere else and what not. Not only because they are a Mirai tree, but a lot of times because there is nothing alike on the market, or nothing similar at the same price range.

BOOM!!!! You've hit the nail on the head here! Maybe if more folk had this attitude, my posts wouldnt get so much kick back.

I'll say it again, Don't be in awe....BE INSPIRED!!

 

[leatherback]

I think Mach is right up there, very close to Ryan's level.

Which is why I said "I do not know of many people on this forum"
Most of us are playing at a different level of visualization & skill.

 

[Cajunrider]

Which is why I said "I do not know of many people on this forum"
Most of us are playing at a different level of visualization & skill.

I am also playing at a different level of commitment and time availability. I am not sure that many of us are willing to be a bonsai apprentice even for a bonsai master. I know I am not. Bonsai is a pleasure to me but that is all it is.

 

[BobbyLane]

Most of us are playing at a different level of visualization & skill.

That will come for many with the repetition of working with better and better material. Ryan's styling streams are exceptionally good and they do give you a full understanding of his mindset and the way he goes about achieving these high quality results. But maybe the motivation and aspirations just aren't there for a lot of folk.

EDIT: Cajun sort of summed up the last part of my post

 

[IzzyG]

Does anyone own a tree of his from a previous sale?

I have 4 from the last sale and about a dozen Mirai trees in total.

 

[Cajunrider]

I have 4 from the last sale and about a dozen Mirai trees in total.

Another reason for me to come and visit you some day

 

[IzzyG]

Another reason for me to come and visit you some day

Open invite anytime!

 

[KikurageOtomo]

I think Mach is right up there, very close to Ryan's level.

BOOM!!!! You've hit the nail on the head here! Maybe if more folk had this attitude, my posts wouldnt get so much kick back.

I'll say it again, Don't be in awe....BE INSPIRED!!

Sergio has also been hosting his own mini-"mercantile" in auctions this week, is he planning a instrumental acquisition at nationals this year?

 

[Paradox]

I am also playing at a different level of commitment and time availability.

In addition to a different level of wallet

 

[Deleted member 47471]

Ryan is as much a wordsmith as he is a bonsai professional. And he happens to be very good at both.

But..
After watching about 50+ hours of Mirai live in a relatively short time, I REALLY wish he would just get to the point every now and

 

[Deleted member 47471]

Ryan is as much a wordsmith as he is a bonsai professional. And he happens to be very good at both.

But..
After watching about 50+ hours of Mirai live in a relatively short time, I REALLY wish he would just get to the point every now and then

 

[Maiden69]

Open invite anytime!

If you weren't so far away I would go just to look at that 964... errr, bonsai forum... Mirai and Eisei en trees.

 

[Cajunrider]

Open invite anytime!

I will hold you to this. I have family in Milwaukee. I think I will talk my lady into visiting her sister next year

 

[IzzyG]

I will hold you to this. I have family in Milwaukee. I think I will talk my lady into visiting her sister next year

My word is my bond so cmon down!

 

[roberthu]

Ryan continuously states that his intent with Mirai is not to sell trees, but to teach and empower enthusiasts into saying "I can do this"... that's the whole point of the streams, Q&A's, etc... but as any business or bonsai collector, he can only maintain so many trees. In addition, every ones time is not free, so the time dedicated to style, water, maintain, fertilize, etc... should be added to the price of the tree being sold.

Last year we went through this same argument, and I posted pre-bonsai trees being sold at the same time by Brussles and Wigerts that were at the same price Mirai was asking, but they also were at a "rawer" stage of development. People see the price and scream murder, without taking the time to do some research and see if they can get the same tree at a cheaper price. A lot of the trees that sell within minutes are usually bought by people that have done the research and know what trees they can get somewhere else and what not. Not only because they are a Mirai tree, but a lot of times because there is nothing alike on the market, or nothing similar at the same price range.

Exactly.
Value of art is a very objective matter. The world treasures Mona Lisa and it is deemed priceless. But I am very sure that a lot of people still choose Porn Hub over that painting.