Mirai tree sale

[rockm]

FWIW, the Mirai page says there will be shipping info on each tree's listing.

"Trees that are available to ship via common carriers will be marked as such on each tree's product page. Please note we can only ship trees in the contiguous United States."

 

[Enfield Snapper]

Have you seen the Mirai videos lately? On YouTube or Facebook? The weather there is hotter than here in central TX. Heck they just had over a week of triple digits, peaking at 117 with 60-70% humidity.

That's what I was thinking. Ordinarily the climate difference is probably more of a concern, but this summer has been brutal here in Portland.

 

[Maiden69]

How do you get to the sale page? Anyone have a link?

Trees

goods.bonsaimirai.com

Nothing will show up until the sale day.

 

[rockm]

Latest Toutube vid from Mirai--posted on FB site around Aug. 12 from the time stamp. Worth watching for a possible glimpse of sale stuff @ 5:56 or so, as well as a reference to Ron Lang's retirement @ about 3:39

First part of the vid addresses the rough weather up that way--hopefully not as dire as Ryan makes it sound...

 

[AcerAddict]

The weather there is hotter than here in central TX. Heck they just had over a week of triple digits, peaking at 117 with 60-70% humidity. Also, most of the trees in this sale will be taken down in the "covered wagon" as stated above. I also doubt that Mirai will ship trees "UPS ground"... shipping is going to be expensive.

That was the weather a week or two ago, and clearly not the norm for the PNW. Hence the reason it made national headlines. The AccuWeather forecast for St. Helens, OR (where Mirai is located) over the next week calls for highs in the mid-70s to mid-80's, with lows in the upper 50s. In other words, their normal seasonal temperatures. Also, I never said that Mirai would ship via "UPS Ground" from Oregon to South Carolina, where OP lives. Merely that it would be a LONG journey for whatever tree they decided to purchase during the upcoming sale. I don't know what their "covered wagon" service is, but I imagine that it's more careful than using a major shipping company and sounds like a viable option to use when ordering an expensive tree from them.

It's OP's money, and they're free to buy what they want with it. I personally contemplated buying a nice tree online in the near future, but others here encouraged me to wait until September or October to avoid having something expensive and temperature-sensitive shipped in the heat of summer. I wasn't even looking at west coast retailers either, but rather sellers here in the east, from Florida (Wigert's) to Tennessee (Eisei-En) to Massachusetts (New England Bonsai). They still said to wait, which is probably a wise decision. Many also encouraged me to hold off on making a major purchase until I can attend the big December show in Kannapolis, NC. That way, I can see trees live in-person before spending several hundred dollars, as well as drive it home safely myself.

 

[BobbyLane]

Latest Toutube vid from Mirai--posted on FB site around Aug. 12 from the time stamp. Worth watching for a possible glimpse of sale stuff @ 5:56 or so, as well as a reference to Ron Lang's retirement @ about 3:39

First part of the vid addresses the rough weather up that way--hopefully not as dire as Ryan makes it sound...

some top quality material there. i spotted this hinoki, it will probably be sold for a sizable wad. if one was really serious, one could probably find material like this in a nursery.
Ryan is doing here what many are told not to do. he's made a nice tree out of what most would label somewhat of a 'catapult' we often see newbies get told to remove the lower right branch or trunk and ground layer the poor roots. if you couldnt find a hinoki, you could defo find a spruce that looks like this, especially at christmas time.

what Ryan has done there, isnt hard to do with a bit of practice and watching a few of his streams. newbies take note. watch what the experts are doing.

we should have a few guesses on how much the hinoki will sell for, think its a hinoki. i say $250....$350 tops, but i wouldnt be surprised to see it sold for more.

 

[rockm]

some top quality material there. i spotted this hinoki, it will probably be sold for a sizable wad. if one was really serious, one could probably find material like this in a nursery.
Ryan is doing here what many are told not to do. he's made a nice tree out of what most would label somewhat of a 'catapult' we often see newbies get told to remove the lower right branch or trunk and ground layer the poor roots. if you couldnt find a hinoki, you could defo find a spruce that looks like this, especially at christmas time.

what Ryan has done there, isnt hard to do with a bit of practice and watching a few of his streams. newbies take note. watch what the experts are doing.

we should have a few guesses on how much the hinoki will sell for, think its a hinoki. i say $250....$350 tops, but i wouldnt be surprised to see it sold for more.

FWIW, I don't think that is a hinoki. It is more likely a juniper, possibly, or probably, a collected juniper. Can't really make the foliage out of the tree, but since Ryan deals with a lot (primarily) with western U.S. native collected trees, I'd be surprised if that is a hinoki. It is styled as a kind of "candelabra" form that develops in high alpine areas.

 

[leatherback]

What I think I have missed here..

Having one year bonsai experience is not nearly enough to properly manage thhe expertly styled trees. The value of the tree will drop dramatically with each year of insufficient skills managing the tree. So unless you expect them to come over and twice a year work the tree, wait longer before getting top level trees.

I personally prefer to start from good raw material and learn how to build that up. once I have done that for a bunch of trees, I will have a better feel for how to maintain high value trees.

 

[BobbyLane]

FWIW, I don't think that is a hinoki. It is more likely a juniper, possibly, or probably, a collected juniper. Can't really make the foliage out of the tree, but since Ryan deals with a lot (primarily) with western U.S. native collected trees, I'd be surprised if that is a hinoki. It is styled as a kind of "candelabra" form that develops in high alpine areas.

im swaying towards hinoki but we should see when the sale is on. he's worked a lot with hinoki on his streams Rock. i realise that he works with a lot of collected stock but he also has a lot of nursery and field grown stock. he's mentioned numerous times that where he is in Oregon theyre blessed to have so many tree nurseries in the area. maybe more folks in these areas should be tapping in too.

 

[Tidal Bonsai]

I don't think I have ever seen anything on the Mirai sale for less than $500.

 

[Maiden69]

Cryptomeria Japonica

 

[BobbyLane]

Cryptomeria Japonica
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there you go, hinoki and crypto do look similar. he has worked a couple cryptos on the streams too that were nursery trees. this is a nice shot of that one.

@rockm im a fan of the candelabra style for some conifers, definitely a characteristic of how some of them grow up in the mountains, ive only seen pics though!

 

[coh]

some top quality material there. i spotted this hinoki, it will probably be sold for a sizable wad. if one was really serious, one could probably find material like this in a nursery.
Ryan is doing here what many are told not to do. he's made a nice tree out of what most would label somewhat of a 'catapult' we often see newbies get told to remove the lower right branch or trunk and ground layer the poor roots. if you couldnt find a hinoki, you could defo find a spruce that looks like this, especially at christmas time.

what Ryan has done there, isnt hard to do with a bit of practice and watching a few of his streams. newbies take note. watch what the experts are doing.

we should have a few guesses on how much the hinoki will sell for, think its a hinoki. i say $250....$350 tops, but i wouldnt be surprised to see it sold for more.

If that tree is in the sale it will be offered for a LOT more than $350!

 

[rockm]

there you go, hinoki and crypto do look similar. he has worked a couple cryptos on the streams too that were nursery trees. this is a nice shot of that one.

@rockm im a fan of the candelabra style for some conifers, definitely a characteristic of how some of them grow up in the mountains, ive only seen pics though!

Good to get an ID. Given that info, it is, as you said, a nursery-origin plant. But it does seem to have been worked a lot. From what I've seen crypto in common nursery cans don't have close tight foliage like that.

 

[BobbyLane]

If that tree is in the sale it will be offered for a LOT more than $350!

agreed, its chunkier than i thought too going by last screenshot. its a nice tree

 

[Maiden69]

That tree is going to go for WAY more than $350. I think the pot along (I think it is a Sara Rayner) would be around $900-1000.

Picture for the size if this tree.

 

[rockm]

That tree is going to go for WAY more than $350. I think the pot along (I think it is a Sara Rayner) would be around $900-1000.

Picture for the size if this tree.


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yeah. $1,000 easy. Shipping $300 (who knows?)...BIG ass tree

 

[Wood]

Does anyone know the date of the sale?

 

[Mayank]

Trees

goods.bonsaimirai.com

Nothing will show up until the sale day.

OK. Thanks. And when is sale day? And how do people find out about this? Cause it's the same day every year or email or facebook?

 

[Ohmy222]

Last year the only trees under $1000 were seriously junipers you could pick up at any nursery. Very well styled of course and in very nice pots. Not something I would pay for. The rug juniper he did in a demo from nursery material sold for like $1500. It looked incredible for sure but the material was probably $100. You are paying for a tree styled by Ryan from material collected by someone like Randy Knight in a Ron Lang or Tom Benda pot.. Oddly enough, many of the upper end trees seemed to be decent value to me when you consider the pots probably push $500 alone.