raydomz
Shohin
We'll never come to any agreement on this issue.
Agree to disagree.
Traditional Bonsai VS Chinese?
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Agree to disagree.
Klytus
Omono
You became Indignant,it's common these days.
Attila Soos
Omono
Your intellectual roots have long been an enigma for many of us here, but your knowing reference to the Orangutans starts to shed some light. Was Borneo ever a British colony?))
Hey, the greatest thing about Klytus is that we don't know anything about him at all. He may not have too many trees, but he practices the art of being incomprehensibe (emphasis on "art"), to perfection. That, by itself, is worthy of respect.
The only thing that could top this, is if we later found out that he does this without being aware of it.
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Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Hey, the greatest thing about Klytus is that we don't know anything about him at all. He may not have too many trees, but he practices the art of being incomprehensibe (emphasis on "art"), to perfection. That, by itself, is worthy of respect.
The only thing that could top this, is if we later found out that he does this without being aware of it.
Did you ever see the movie with Peter Sellers: Being There? He could walk on water because he was too dumb to realize that you can't do that.
Klytus
Omono
What is it that you consider impossible?
Could it be a lack of knowledge,could training help?
Could it be a lack of knowledge,could training help?
Those that can, do, those that can't, teach, and those that have no clue put up a smoke screen like Klytus, which I suspect knows as much about bull riding as he does bonsai. If I am wrong, someone show me just one of his trees. I think anyone on this board that offers advice should show his or her credentials, otherwise BS walks. I didn't grow bonsai from seed, I am not that good of a stylist, I do however have a good eye for material that has potential, I am a good conservator, from repotting to triming and wire removing, I gave my trees the best care I could and learned from a master. Most of my trees improved in my care, so I can give good advice on how to take care of a tree and what will posiblely turm out to be a nice bonsai in time.
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raydomz
Shohin
You're not getting it.
edprocoat
Masterpiece
Wow, this has turned a bit nasty! The thread intrigued me as I seen the title, my not truly knowing the difference between the two schools of thought I hoped I may learn something.
That aside, let me add my two cents worth, I have always approached Bonsai with an appreciation for all the trees I see, I love the ones that look as if they are natural, I love the ones that are easily known by the touches made by man, twisted trunks like the "s" trunks. They all have their place and are beautiful when healthy and maintained. I have loads of pictures of unique trees that are formed in nature , found in the wild looking as if they had been formed by some event. I remember a tree I used to see all the time until it fell into Caesers Creek lake, lately I fish by the structure it provides. This was a large pine tree that the branches were alive and well on the side over the water while the side facing the incline was bare with a few stubs of dead branches that were obviously broken off and several holes where the branches had either broken out of the trunk or maybe rotted into a hole. I assume that either another tree had fell on it or maybe snow or ice had built up and broke all the branches off. I mimicked this tree convincingly with an 18 inch tall christmas tree labeled as a douglas fir. It looked really neat, nice enough to be removed from the front of my rv 12 years ago. My main thought when designing a tree is trying something that will please me. I am working on a Ficus microcarpa I bought last fall from north Dayton Garden center, I chopped it down from an over 3 foot tall tree to about 18 inches tall and defoliated it, I bare rooted it and layed it as if it had fell over onto a rock at about a 45 degree angle, why? because I see trees like this all the time along the banks of waterways that I fish. this tree would probably be scoffed at in a show but I have no interest in such things, although a couple stopped by my rv last night and complimented me on all my trees! I was thrilled, but mainly I work them to please myself. I think of it as American Bonsai.
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That aside, let me add my two cents worth, I have always approached Bonsai with an appreciation for all the trees I see, I love the ones that look as if they are natural, I love the ones that are easily known by the touches made by man, twisted trunks like the "s" trunks. They all have their place and are beautiful when healthy and maintained. I have loads of pictures of unique trees that are formed in nature , found in the wild looking as if they had been formed by some event. I remember a tree I used to see all the time until it fell into Caesers Creek lake, lately I fish by the structure it provides. This was a large pine tree that the branches were alive and well on the side over the water while the side facing the incline was bare with a few stubs of dead branches that were obviously broken off and several holes where the branches had either broken out of the trunk or maybe rotted into a hole. I assume that either another tree had fell on it or maybe snow or ice had built up and broke all the branches off. I mimicked this tree convincingly with an 18 inch tall christmas tree labeled as a douglas fir. It looked really neat, nice enough to be removed from the front of my rv 12 years ago. My main thought when designing a tree is trying something that will please me. I am working on a Ficus microcarpa I bought last fall from north Dayton Garden center, I chopped it down from an over 3 foot tall tree to about 18 inches tall and defoliated it, I bare rooted it and layed it as if it had fell over onto a rock at about a 45 degree angle, why? because I see trees like this all the time along the banks of waterways that I fish. this tree would probably be scoffed at in a show but I have no interest in such things, although a couple stopped by my rv last night and complimented me on all my trees! I was thrilled, but mainly I work them to please myself. I think of it as American Bonsai.
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Ang3lfir3
Omono
Hey, the greatest thing about Klytus is that we don't know anything about him at all. He may not have too many trees, but he practices the art of being incomprehensibe (emphasis on "art"), to perfection. That, by itself, is worthy of respect.
The only thing that could top this, is if we later found out that he does this without being aware of it.
I've always assumed it was a Markov chain ...
Stan Kengai
Omono
Y'all are being pretty hard on the ole Klytorus. I think he's doing an admirable job portraying the classic character Basil Fawlty. Not an easy feat, considering he's following the iconic John Cleese. Imagine the years of understudy required.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Yes I understand, that's what happens when you spend most of your study time sitting in the first floor of a two story out house.
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