Peter Warren Japanese Black Pine

[Brian Van Fleet]

Growing well, and so far, keeping the needle cast at bay. This tree has gotten it badly every year until I really started hitting it hard in 2016. First with copper, then Daconil, and now Mancozeb.

I’ve tried to keep the growth tight to the trunk, but I think it will be time to allow it to extend a bit wider and open up the structure just a bit over the next few years. The plan is still to candle-cut this summer, and then to pull down and fan out the pads a bit more this fall.

 

[Gary McCarthy]

LOVE the movement in the trunk!

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

LOVE the movement in the trunk!

Thanks, now that the planting angle is right, it really has nice movement.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Candle-cutting this one over the weekend. Bigger tree means longer needles means candle cut a bit earlier.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Had time to candle-cut this JBP today. Looking forward to continuing the training this fall for sure, it is advancing well.

Progression shots for fun:

And before-afters of a little pruning, needle-pulling and moss removal:

Carnage shot:?

Never mind the mess in the background, I was painting some patio furniture too...

 

[0soyoung]

Platform diver.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Platform diver.

There have been many conversations about the likelihood of hitting the pool from the deck above. Pretty sure it would be easy, as long as the (somewhat sketchy) railing held up...and 6’ of water is deep enough.

 

[0soyoung]

There have been many conversations about the likelihood of hitting the pool from the deck above. Pretty sure it would be easy, as long as the (somewhat sketchy) railing held up...and 6’ of water is deep enough.

Belly flops are not always a bad thing!

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Current shot. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to thin it out this fall, but it is definitely coming along, and the needles are healthier than they’ve been in a long time.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

I did manage to thin it out last fall at Bjorn’s. Before and after light pruning and needle-pulling.


I ended up leaving the wire on, and I’ll probably re-wire it this fall. Here it is now growing.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Here is a “glamour shot” after cleaning it up for the local club show next weekend. Jerry Braswell stand, cheap pot. Accent is Erodium in an Ino pot on a DaSu slab.

I’ll probably take it back to Bjorn’s for work in June.

 

[Gary McCarthy]

Can I ask what brand those red lift tables are? Do they have locking wheels?

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Can I ask what brand those red lift tables are? Do they have locking wheels?

I think Bjorn said they are motorcycle stands. They don’t have wheels, and are super heavy. They have a pedal to raise them, and when you let out the brake, they collapse to the floor. I nearly dumped my Shimpaku in the Gyouzan pot learning that little nugget. I will check on the brand next month.

 

[Ali Raza]

Nice Pine Mr. @Brian Van Fleet

 

[Drew]

Can I ask what brand those red lift tables are? Do they have locking wheels?

They are called motorcross scissor lifts. My one has wheels:

https://www.manomano.co.uk/p/motocr...draulic-dirt-bike-lift-835317?model_id=835317

 

[erb.75]

very nice progression. amazed at the progress in the timeframe

 

[Hartinez]

Had time to candle-cut this JBP today. Looking forward to continuing the training this fall for sure, it is advancing well.
Carnage shot:?
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Never mind the mess in the background, I was painting some patio furniture too...

Poolside Bonsai work!?!? Livin the dream in Bama!!

 

[Potawatomi13]

LOL!!! God I hope you're wrong Brian, because they aren't close enough to the trunk yet!

I remember when I read Larry Jackel's book and he said something along the same line, you'll only get back budding once...but it was after his "Fall Ponderosa Pine Technique" where in late fall, he removes the top and bottom needles, and also cuts the terminal bud at a 45 degree cut producing back buds. (Yes I had to look in the book for the details lol)

Wrong is books technique! See Ryans Ponderosa live streams(and others)for better info how to develop properly. Difference in one time back budding including commensurate lull in trees growth and sustainable continued development. Personally bought the book but providentially met Ryan before using books mistaken methodology.

 

[Vance Wood]

Wrong is books technique! See Ryans Ponderosa live streams(and others)for better info how to develop properly. Difference in one time back budding including commensurate lull in trees growth and sustainable continued development. Personally bought the book but providentially met Ryan before using books mistaken methodology.

Can you define what is "mistaken methodology" and why it is mistaken?

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Can you define what is "mistaken methodology" and why it is mistaken?

How about taking that discussion to a new thread. This one is a 8-year progression thread on a Japanese Black Pine.