Exactly. It's like taking a cutting. You water them in and then the top is misted to slow down transpiration but the pot is not watered much and that encourages roots to form.
Juniperus - Questions to the experts
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That’s a lot of aftercare. Collected yamadori is treated like that because so little feeder roots are usually obtained.
A regular repot and a HBR repot, I put the tree back into full sun, and water daily. No misting required.
The sun warms the roots and stimulates them to grow.
my nellie
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Spring in my region does not last long.
Very hot and dry summer weather comes soon and a newly bare-rooted tree has less chances to withstand.
On the contrary, fall is continuing its mildly hot and humid weather well into November and the tree will have better chances.
If the case was only for root pruning and repotting, then I could consider doing this in spring.
Last and current year I made most of my repottings (except tropicals and olives) during fall and my trees responded better coming next spring
Oh yeah for sure. That's what I do to. I was referring to the situation where a huge amount of roots are removed for some unavoidable reason.
my nellie
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I have repotted the tree last Sunday using the half bare root technique.
The soil was not bad but it was occupied largely by the roots. I removed 1/3 off of the bottom.
The core of the rootball had barely any humidity present although the tree had received a lot of water (very slowly absorbed) 2-3 days before.
Lots of rotting roots were removed by hand or washed out with the hose!!!
Those dead roots were removed from one half of the ball, though. The other remained untouched as far as removing is concerned but some disturbing was unavoidable...
Temperature forecast as follows :
Till the end of October, mean high 20-22C and mean low 13-14C
1-15 December, mean high 18-20C and mean low 11-13C
I hope for the best
The soil was not bad but it was occupied largely by the roots. I removed 1/3 off of the bottom.
The core of the rootball had barely any humidity present although the tree had received a lot of water (very slowly absorbed) 2-3 days before.
Lots of rotting roots were removed by hand or washed out with the hose!!!
Michael, you are describing the situation applying to my juniper.
Those dead roots were removed from one half of the ball, though. The other remained untouched as far as removing is concerned but some disturbing was unavoidable...
Temperature forecast as follows :
Till the end of October, mean high 20-22C and mean low 13-14C
1-15 December, mean high 18-20C and mean low 11-13C
I hope for the best
defra
Masterpiece
I have repotted the tree last Sunday using the half bare root technique.
The soil was not bad but it was occupied largely by the roots. I removed 1/3 off of the bottom.
The core of the rootball had barely any humidity present although the tree had received a lot of water (very slowly absorbed) 2-3 days before.
Lots of rotting roots were removed by hand or washed out with the hose!!!Michael, you are describing the situation applying to my juniper.
Those dead roots were removed from one half of the ball, though. The other remained untouched as far as removing is concerned but some disturbing was unavoidable...
Temperature forecast as follows :
Till the end of October, mean high 20-22C and mean low 13-14C
1-15 December, mean high 18-20C and mean low 11-13C
I hope for the best
Goodluck with the tree nellie!
Did you took any pics of the hbr repotting process?
my nellie
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@defra yes I did... crappy though, because I only had my old mobile phone with me...
The tree after the bottom 1/3 of root ball reduction. It was into a 15L nursery pot.
Lot of dead/rotten roots were cut/washed out...
Half of the rootball was combed and stretched.
You can see the other half almost intact (some of the falling apart dead roots of the perimeter were washed by the running water)
I will post later photo of the finished potted tree.
I am pleased with the work done and happy for the new substrate the tree is into and I hope it will recognize and appreciate the difference
The tree after the bottom 1/3 of root ball reduction. It was into a 15L nursery pot.
Lot of dead/rotten roots were cut/washed out...
Half of the rootball was combed and stretched.
You can see the other half almost intact (some of the falling apart dead roots of the perimeter were washed by the running water)
I will post later photo of the finished potted tree.
I am pleased with the work done and happy for the new substrate the tree is into and I hope it will recognize and appreciate the difference
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It looks good, especially concerning your longer growing season.
My Tripple mugo emergency HBR-ed and repotted this spring is fine...and I had some mushrooms growing right in a new bonsai soil, where the roots were cleaned.
My Tripple mugo emergency HBR-ed and repotted this spring is fine...and I had some mushrooms growing right in a new bonsai soil, where the roots were cleaned.
Check out a real procumbens here. (first conifer close up) Expand the screen to full size, put it on pause. Have a real close look. No scales and exactly like every procumbens I've ever seen. Root bound or unfertilized procumbens do NOT prodcuce scale foliage ever. (Other nice trees two).
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I assisted Tyler Sherrod with a Juniper styling class today. Mostly old 25 year old Procumbens. Some were pretty much all scale, some were pretty much all juvenile, some a mix.
So, I asked Tyler about Procumbens. If they aways stay juvenile, and he said no, they will go scale when they get old. It’s hard to keep them scale, they revert to juvi easily.
Tyler spent 5 years as an apprentice to Shinji Suzuki in Japan, and has worked on hundreds of Junipers. Maybe even thousands. Of all varieties.
Here are a couple of pictures of one of the trees we worked on today. As you can see, part was scale, part was juvi.
Scale:
Whole tree:
Juvenile close up:
So, I asked Tyler about Procumbens. If they aways stay juvenile, and he said no, they will go scale when they get old. It’s hard to keep them scale, they revert to juvi easily.
Tyler spent 5 years as an apprentice to Shinji Suzuki in Japan, and has worked on hundreds of Junipers. Maybe even thousands. Of all varieties.
Here are a couple of pictures of one of the trees we worked on today. As you can see, part was scale, part was juvi.
Scale:
Whole tree:
Juvenile close up:
I've got one that's about 40 years old. The one in the video is probably over 100. When do the scales come? .....so much for the age theory
No what you have there is a san jose. Like this one below. The bumps and warts on the trunk are the identifying feature (apart from the 2 Kinds of foliage) Procumbens just does not have those. Two different plants.
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M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Ding!
Procumbens has smaller foliage than San Jose.
Both get adult scale foliage.
Both lose scale foliage at the first sign that cutters are coming.
San Jose seems to grow faster.
San Jose adult foliage is coarse. Where the procumbens scale foliage is a lot like kishu shimpaku.
Nope, pretty much every tree goes back into it’s regular environment.
I mostly do Pines, so they go back into full sun.
The “root warming” stimulating root growth is pretty much universal.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I've noted differences in San Francisco....Georgia, here.....
And possibly AZ too.
Sorce
I have repotted in Georgia and in the Bay Area of California. In both of those, we place the trees right back out in the sun. My teacher, Boon, travels extensively all over the US, and the world, actually. And no matter where he repost trees, he puts them right back out in the sun after repotting.
You do have to keep them watered.
my nellie
Masterpiece
Updating the juniper.
Repotted 22/10 and it got a thorough watering.
No water after that until Monday 30/10 when I gave it a little water with a solution of natural bio-energizer, as per Michael.
The runners at tips of branches keep on elongating, so a good and optimistic sign
Repotted 22/10 and it got a thorough watering.
No water after that until Monday 30/10 when I gave it a little water with a solution of natural bio-energizer, as per Michael.
Regular misting of foliage 3-4 times daily of course, plus the weather turned a little more humid.
The runners at tips of branches keep on elongating, so a good and optimistic sign
defra
Masterpiece
Nice !
Thnx for the pics on the hbr!!
Did you change planting angle with the repot?
Thnx for the pics on the hbr!!
Did you change planting angle with the repot?
my nellie
Masterpiece
Thanks for your interest.
No, I did not.
I was troubled with that though, but I decided to look into this issue at next repotting after the other half of the root ball will be cleaned/reduced.
No, I did not.
I was troubled with that though, but I decided to look into this issue at next repotting after the other half of the root ball will be cleaned/reduced.
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