clevetromba
Shohin
Battle Star Galactica?
Elm Root Cuttings
- Thread starter Smoke
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M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Awesome! But it's really Bonsai Study Group. Good forum. Check it out.
Nowhere as near as much jocularity there though.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Here's mine. Couldn't find anything too interesting, but to see what it will do....
Howzaboutaupdate!
Sorce
Eric Group
Masterpiece
Just curious- how long did yours take to show new growth? Mine last year popped it seemed.. Within a month or so, but I havent seen anything from the ones I did last month yet. I expected it to take a few weeks, but it seems longer now than i expected.
Edit- looking back at post dates, it has only been about 2-3 weeks since I did mine... Guess I am just impatient!
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Just as a comparison, whats good about it? In your opinion....
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
Should work, I've seen hawthorns on the edge of wetlands and stream beds with exposed roots b/c of erosion sprouting new trunks. Heck, One of the trees I collected last year started to sprout from the end of a cut root that was close to the soil's surface (it was in a high organic/fine particle soil mix). I'm guessing, like the elms here, high moisture is the key to making it work based on the environments I've seen it happen in. But then again, it's just my best guess based on observation, rigorous testing is required to confirm validity
Anywho, now back to elms...
I successfully did a Washington Hawthorn this way so yes it can be done.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Update on my elm root cuttings.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Now that you bring it up, I guess not much anymore. Hardly anyone posts on there anymore.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Ever think why? I mean they do not tolorate fighting, nor posting large embedded images. They have knowledgable participants that have studied in Japan and mostly larger more advanced trees that are fun to look at. Seems like the perfect bonsai place for one to flock to. The place that many here have said this place needs to be more like.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Good point. And I also find quite a few unanswered posts in the archives.
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
flinging fertilizer & fighting == fun!
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
BTW my elm roots are likely not going to make it. I had put cut paste on the end and one tried very hard to push through the paste. I sawed the end off and I hope they will make it but I am not counting on it. The green circle is leaves that were trying to push through the paste... Lesson learned.![IMG_3163[2].JPG](https://www.bonsainut.com/data/attachments/61/61821-2b5621bfcfbaa2a48e3dca9012708a71.jpg?hash=K1Yhv8-6oq "IMG_3163[2].JPG")
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sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Couple months ago, I saw a post with some 3-5k reads and no replies!
B-Nut, HOME OF FREE SPEECH.
I never want my Profile removed from this site.
Sorce
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
At IBC I quoted a post with an LOL, or something like that.
The post went,
"Good tip Dick, something to sink your teeth into"
So I quoted it and lol'd it.
I got a polite email saying my post was removed.
I thought it funny the original post wasn't removed.
Here's to B-NUT, the Home of Free Speech.
Greg, I had a Lotta respect for you before I saw that Lake Trout!
Thanks!
Sorce
The post went,
"Good tip Dick, something to sink your teeth into"
So I quoted it and lol'd it.
I got a polite email saying my post was removed.
I thought it funny the original post wasn't removed.
Here's to B-NUT, the Home of Free Speech.
Greg, I had a Lotta respect for you before I saw that Lake Trout!
Thanks!
Sorce
clevetromba
Shohin
I know there are very zealous arguments for and against cut paste, and your experience here is an argument against using it for a severe cut back where you want to encourage budding. A tree (not sure if it's Chinese Elm or Zelkova) I chopped back from about 9 feet to 12 inches a few months ago and did not use cut paste is still bleeding and has orange and black gunk growing on the cut surface. This is making me think I should have used a sealant, but I of course do want it to throw out multiple buds near the cut. What's the solution!?
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
I'm not going to get into the wound sealing argument much but I believe sealing a root cutting might be a different issue than a above ground tree. I looked at Smoke's pictures:
http://www.bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/elm-root-cuttings.18590/#post-251141
I noticed on his pictures that the first leaves emerge from the cut portion of the root. What I saw from mine was that the leaves tried to push through but could not.
A small question if you don't mind, on April 1st I made a root cutting of a friends elm which top totally died,
Anyway the root is very small and buried almost totally & I didn't pay attention to tie the top to avoid bulges etc...
Today there is a green showing in the cut which, I think, is a flush of buds
My question is can I leave it unattended till fall or bulge will form ? better to remove it now and tie it ? (in short how to proceed to avoid reverse tapper
)
thanks
Anyway the root is very small and buried almost totally & I didn't pay attention to tie the top to avoid bulges etc...
Today there is a green showing in the cut which, I think, is a flush of buds
My question is can I leave it unattended till fall or bulge will form ? better to remove it now and tie it ? (in short how to proceed to avoid reverse tapper
)
thanks
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I messed with mine to early before.
Let em get pretty big before decisions.
If you're going for a broom, I'd keep the smallest shoots. If a new lead, the strongest one.
Sorce
Let em get pretty big before decisions.
If you're going for a broom, I'd keep the smallest shoots. If a new lead, the strongest one.
Sorce
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I used the soft grey Japanese stuff on Pole to Dos and buds pushed through it. Not at the ring, but i reckon they could too.
Sorce
