Elm Root Cuttings

[Si Nguyen]

@Si Nguyen, if you're still a regular on these shores I just checked and your PM was recieved in 2011. Madness!

Still alive and kicking. Can't remember what the PM was about though. Hope it was useful.
Cheers!

 

[Jake]

Good to hear! I'm not surprised, I couldn't believe it was seven years ago. If this tree lives up to my vision I'll name it after you

 

[Timbo]

Do you guys have any success with doing other tree root cuttings like this?
I put root cuttings from my bald cypress in containers about a week ago, hoping they will bud out.

 

[Stan Kengai]

Do you guys have any success with doing other tree root cuttings like this?
I put root cuttings from my bald cypress in containers about a week ago, hoping they will bud out.

Any species that naturally produces suckers can be propagated by root cuttings. Japanese quince and apples are 2 that definitely can. Not sure about bald cypress.

 

[Billskarsgard]

Here they are tonight. Soon I will be picking leaders and allowing just a few to grow. Some of the short stubby ones are over an inch across and will be broom style trees.

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That's awesome

 

[Shibui]

Do you guys have any success with doing other tree root cuttings like this?

There is an extensive list of species that will grow from root cuttings:
This list imported from a thread on Ausbonsai. I can't personally vouch for the entire list but I have grown quite a few of these as root cuttings:

Acacia – Boormanii, Dealbata –easy
American Maple - Liquidamber – easy
Banksia – Integrifolia -?
Bouganvillea - easy
Callery Pear – Pyrus sp. ?
Camellia – ?
Cherry Ballart –Exocarpus Cuppressiformis ?
Chinese elm - Ulmus parvifolia – easy
Clerodendrum - Clerodendrum – easy
Cork bark elm - Ulmus propinqua var. suberosa - easy
Crab Apple - malus - ?
Crepe Myrtle - Lagerstroemia indica – ?
Desert Ash – Fraxinus augustifolia – very easy
Dogwood – Cornus sp. –easy
English Elm – Ulmus procera -easy
Firethorn -Pyracantha - (easy)
Glochidion – Cheese tree/Button tree –easy
Japanese Silverberry - Elaeagnus pungen -easy
Japanese Dwarf Cherry - Prunus 'Okame' & sp. – easy
Japanese Dwarf Quince – Chojubai -easy
Hackberry – Celtis Sp. - easy
Hokkaido Elm - Ulmus Parvifolia var. – easy
Lilacs -Syringa vulgaris -Intermediate
Lillypilly – Szygyium Sp. -easy
Maiden hair tree - Ginko biloba -?
Mock Orange – Philadelphus sp. -easy
Natal fig - Ficus Natalensis – easy
Ornamental Quince - Chaenomeles –easy
Persian Ironwood - Parrottia persica – slow
Quince – Cydonia sp. -easy
Red Cedar - Toona Ciliata –easy
Rose – Rosacea - non grafted species. – easy.
Sandalwood – Santalum lanceolatum - difficult
Seiju elm - Ulmus Parvifolia var. – easy
She Oak - Allocasuarina* -– Shoots from Small surface roots.
Spindle Bush – Euonymus sp. - easy
Sumac - Rhus typhina -?
Swamp Paperbark – Melaleuca ericifolia -easy
Thai temple bells - Wrightia Religiosa - intermediate
Tree of a thousand stars - Serrisa - ?
Willow leaf fig - Ficus Nerifolia - relatively easy
White Cedar - Melia azedarach -Easy
Willow - Salix spp. – easy
Wisteria - Wisteria – easy
Zelkova –Japanese Elm -easy

I just noticed that hawthorn is not on that list - easy.

 

[Smoke]

It has exploded in growth at well over 1cm a day. I'd argue that it supports @Smoke 's views on when to prune as I have been pruning and clipping from almost immediately after bud break. There was clearly a substantial store of sugar within what was left of the tree following me lopping off the entire top in the winter. It seemed pointless (detrimental even) to have that surplus energy transferred to branches that served no purpose to the end design, so I funnelled that energy into the new leader. I was also able to build up a branch structure behind the tree as part of an experiment.

Don't be tellin people all this crap...next thing you know, everyone will be doing it!

 

[a0kalittlema0n]

There is an extensive list of species that will grow from root cuttings:
This list imported from a thread on Ausbonsai. I can't personally vouch for the entire list but I have grown quite a few of these as root cuttings:

Acacia – Boormanii, Dealbata –easy
American Maple - Liquidamber – easy
Banksia – Integrifolia -?
Bouganvillea - easy
Callery Pear – Pyrus sp. ?
Camellia – ?
Cherry Ballart –Exocarpus Cuppressiformis ?
Chinese elm - Ulmus parvifolia – easy
Clerodendrum - Clerodendrum – easy
Cork bark elm - Ulmus propinqua var. suberosa - easy
Crab Apple - malus - ?
Crepe Myrtle - Lagerstroemia indica – ?
Desert Ash – Fraxinus augustifolia – very easy
Dogwood – Cornus sp. –easy
English Elm – Ulmus procera -easy
Firethorn -Pyracantha - (easy)
Glochidion – Cheese tree/Button tree –easy
Japanese Silverberry - Elaeagnus pungen -easy
Japanese Dwarf Cherry - Prunus 'Okame' & sp. – easy
Japanese Dwarf Quince – Chojubai -easy
Hackberry – Celtis Sp. - easy
Hokkaido Elm - Ulmus Parvifolia var. – easy
Lilacs -Syringa vulgaris -Intermediate
Lillypilly – Szygyium Sp. -easy
Maiden hair tree - Ginko biloba -?
Mock Orange – Philadelphus sp. -easy
Natal fig - Ficus Natalensis – easy
Ornamental Quince - Chaenomeles –easy
Persian Ironwood - Parrottia persica – slow
Quince – Cydonia sp. -easy
Red Cedar - Toona Ciliata –easy
Rose – Rosacea - non grafted species. – easy.
Sandalwood – Santalum lanceolatum - difficult
Seiju elm - Ulmus Parvifolia var. – easy
She Oak - Allocasuarina* -– Shoots from Small surface roots.
Spindle Bush – Euonymus sp. - easy
Sumac - Rhus typhina -?
Swamp Paperbark – Melaleuca ericifolia -easy
Thai temple bells - Wrightia Religiosa - intermediate
Tree of a thousand stars - Serrisa - ?
Willow leaf fig - Ficus Nerifolia - relatively easy
White Cedar - Melia azedarach -Easy
Willow - Salix spp. – easy
Wisteria - Wisteria – easy
Zelkova –Japanese Elm -easy

I just noticed that hawthorn is not on that list - easy.

Can I just say this is a fantastic list. I've never found any extensive list this large about root cuttings. Do others have experience with anything else on that list?

Sidenote: I think stooling is a great way to propagate certain species that we could definitely benefit from. Especially from Quince, Cotoneaster, and possibly Crepe Myrtles (Trying this year)

 

[Smoke]

I do stooling everyday, it's not anything I want to propagate....

 

[0soyoung]

I think stooling is a great way to propagate certain species that we could definitely benefit from. Especially from Quince, Cotoneaster, and possibly Crepe Myrtles (Trying this year)

Do you mean harvesting this suckers and rooting them?

 

[River's Edge]

Do you mean harvesting this suckers and rooting them?

I believe they are referring to the mound layering process. A version of ground layering by building up the soil around extensions that spring from a cut back root stock.

 

[just.wing.it]

stooling

Huh?

 

[0soyoung]

I believe they are referring to the mound layering process. A version of ground layering by building up the soil around extensions that spring from a cut back root stock.

I just don't see why this would be a great way to propagate in the context of bonsai.

 

[akhater]

Just adding my limited experience

Made 2-3 hawthorn root cuttings just 3 weeks ago, this morning one of them is already pushing buds

 

[rodeolthr]

Bwaaaaahaha, I think that there was a joke in there that may have been missed by some.

 

[a0kalittlema0n]

I just don't see why this would be a great way to propagate in the context of bonsai.

It allows the main portion to thicken up and in the Winter you cut back and take rooted cuttings off of the plant. Over a few years of just propagating new plants you'll have a much thicker base to start with if you use the original plant.

Yes everyone, I'm referring to mound layering (stool layering, mounding, etc.)

 

[Hack Yeah!]

Have planted several root cuttings this season, yatsubusa elm and pokemoke crepe myrtle, thanks for the notes