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[A Random User]

Another photo of the tree after bend.



The rest of my Sunday was spent helping out at my folks house, filling some sandbags to help stop water getting into their, house!

Then today, the tree was then fine wired... Still have a bit more to do, and sorry the following photo is not so good, already after dark, and the picture was taken under the clamp on work lights that I use. Was playing around with the concept of two trees in one, with dual apexes. Thanks!

 

[Vin]

I really like the left side of the tree but I'm not convinced about the two trees in one even though it does sound interesting.

 

[A Random User]

I really like the left side of the tree but I'm not convinced about the two trees in one even though it does sound interesting.

That's ok Vin you don't have to be convinced, or even like it!

 

[MaverickLancer]

There could be some precedent for the dual tree idea - almost like competing leaders?

Id be interested to see top views of these projects so I can get a better idea of how the pads are initially layed out.

Im finding that the worse off the initial material, the more intriguing the results. I personally would've tried bringing the right side of the tree up in another exteme bend, but you certainly offer a uniquely eloquent solution.

Ever think of making a time lapse or video for one of these?

 

[Vin]

That's ok Vin you don't have to be convinced, or even like it!

Convinced in my own mind or vision. You have a way of seeing things in a tree that others either can't or don't want to. I'll be interested to see the tree as it develops.

 

[A Random User]

There could be some precedent for the dual tree idea - almost like competing leaders?

Id be interested to see top views of these projects so I can get a better idea of how the pads are initially layed out.

Im finding that the worse off the initial material, the more intriguing the results. I personally would've tried bringing the right side of the tree up in another exteme bend, but you certainly offer a uniquely eloquent solution.

Ever think of making a time lapse or video for one of these?

I originally planned on doing another bend and bring the right side up, that's why I applied the raffia long enough to do it... but after I tightened up the first bend and examined the branches and foliage, I decided that I kinda liked where it was headed!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Very interesting! Thanks for showing.

 

[A Random User]

Convinced in my own mind or vision. You have a way of seeing things in a tree that others either can't or don't want to. I'll be interested to see the tree as it develops.

Often in nature you will see a tree that has done just this where the tree has forked off to make almost two trees, especially after it has undergone some traumatic event... so I am just referring to memories I have seen!

 

[A Random User]

Very interesting! Thanks for showing.

Thanks for the reply!

 

[coh]

So, I again used the technique that I discussed on the second juniper, of using my trunk splitters, to induce a couple of splits to help with the bend. Raffia was then applied, and the trunk was bent, using guy wires.

Thanks for taking the time to go through the process with these trees. Very interesting and informative.

I wanted to ask about the trunk splitting technique. Specifically...do you have any pics of what trunks look like after a few years? I would think the process must leave some kind of scars in the area where you split the trunk, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I've seen many people talk about using this technique, but I don't know if I've ever seen pics of the long term results.

Chris

 

[A Random User]

Thanks for taking the time to go through the process with these trees. Very interesting and informative.

I wanted to ask about the trunk splitting technique. Specifically...do you have any pics of what trunks look like after a few years? I would think the process must leave some kind of scars in the area where you split the trunk, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I've seen many people talk about using this technique, but I don't know if I've ever seen pics of the long term results.

Chris

I will see if I do, I remember taking some on a tree I preformed this process on some time back. I am away from home and am on my phone.

If one is careful on the planning of the splitting and gets the split in the right spot, when one does the bend, you actually tighten up the split. Then the cambium of both sides actually will cover over the split. You will have a slight scar as a result.... if the process is not done in the right spot and one bends, this split will open up. However because the split runs vertical, it still has a very natural occurance look to it.
Thanks for the reply! I will look for the pictures on my computer when I get home, and post it up!

 

[A Random User]

Sorry, Coh... I have looked all over for the photos and can't find them. I think they were on an old laptop that crashed. I thought I had backed up all of the photos, but apparently not.

Will be hopefully getting some more practice material very soon to work on, will post up when I get the chance!

 

[A Random User]

Next Project for this week another Juniper Parsoni that I picked up today... That has a very angular bend in the trunk. Attached a couple of photos... sorry they are not better. So, what's everyone think?

 

[Vin]

Next Project for this week another Juniper Parsoni that I picked up today... That has a very angular bend in the trunk. Attached a couple of photos... sorry they are not better. So, what's everyone think?

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Oddly, I like this image.

 

[A Random User]

Oddly, I like this image.

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Why do you like this angle?

 

[MaverickLancer]

Oddly, I like this image.

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I actually liked this one as well. There is little I can think of to remove or smooth out the acute bend, so the only choice left is to prominently feature it. The third view is the only one that really puts that bend front and center. The second view features the bend, but it pulls my eye hard right, and doesn't really effectively continue on to the apex.

 

[A Random User]

I actually liked this one as well. There is little I can think of to remove or smooth out the acute bend, so the only choice left is to prominently feature it. The third view is the only one that really puts that bend front and center. The second view features the bend, but it pulls my eye hard right, and doesn't really effectively continue on to the apex.

One could make a nice tree out of the first image. Yet, with this image the movement in the trunk feels subdued... it is there, but it's appeal is not as exciting as the bend of the third image... even though it is the exact same bend in each.

In each the bend could be further exaggerated through bending, but does it need it? Here is an instance where I would say the only benifit of doing so would be to compress the overall width of the tree and or bring the center of the apex back in over the center of the tree.

The only other area would be to try and lessen the bend, by trying to take some of it out... sometimes there are times when one might want to do this, but in this case you would be turning a 45 degree bend into a 90, or right angle, which isn't very appealing either, and in fact less so than what the tree has.

One could cover this area with foliage, but then all that would be viewable would be a straight trunk. Which would be fine if the rest of the tree lent itself to a very formal design, but this tree does not.

So, then I would happen to agree... that since one cannot change the bend to much, or hide it, then best to put it front and center and make it the story of the tree.

So, where to go with the branching and foliage? What type of style foliage could one imagine accompanying the tree? Does one see fluffy overgrown healthy pads of foliage, with soft lines, or does one see harsh straight cut lines to match the angle?

 

[A Random User]

So, then if everyone likes the third angle, and if we like the bend as it is... the next path would then to be to determine a path forward with the choice of angle selected. As it sits, this tree currently has branching coming off of the top, which could be made into a continuation of the tree, thus and apex, as in the first quick virt I did... Or could be removed in it's entirety, and one could just go with what is coming off of the bend area, as in the second virt. This is of course if one was wanting an upright tree... One could still go for a cascade.

These virts were done really fast just to give an idea of a general shape one could go with... Of course, their could be many variations of how one could lay out the foliage and branch structure, as well as negative space within the tree...
So, what do you think of these ?

 

[Vin]

So, what I saw was a much smaller canopy with shari twisting up the main trunk. I butchered the photo but you get the idea. The question then becomes, could this happen in nature? I'm on the wall..

 

[Ironbeaver]

I prefer the second, and Vin's more than that