Bonsai Tonight Japanese Red and Black pine articles

[Vance Wood]

Can anyone help me understand...
On the blog it says wiring 3 year old pines http://bonsaitonight.com/2013/03/29/wiring-3-year-old-black-pines/

And then one and a half year old pines http://bonsaitonight.com/2013/08/09/one-and-a-half-year-old-pine-seedlings/

And the younger ones look a lot larger than the older ones?? why is this? Ar you supposed to cut them down to wire?
I have at 1.5-2 years old pines that look like the second link way past the first link.

Near as I can tell you have two groups of JBP grown initially by two different methods accounting for the difference in growth. Either that or the facts are unclear and inaccurate.

 

[Adair M]

It appears that Jonas used a different soil mix for the ones pictured in the 1.5 year post than he did with the trees pictured as 3 year trees. That may account for it. Or he may have changed his fertilizing program. Or, some years are better than others.

I'm sure there's no intent to deceive.

Jonas has published his successes and failures over the years he's been publishing Bonsai Tonight.

 

[Vance Wood]

It appears that Jonas used a different soil mix for the ones pictured in the 1.5 year post than he did with the trees pictured as 3 year trees. That may account for it. Or he may have changed his fertilizing program. Or, some years are better than others.

I'm sure there's no intent to deceive.

Jonas has published his successes and failures over the years he's been publishing Bonsai Tonight.

I did not mean to suggest that anyone was trying to deceive anyone else.

 

[barrosinc]

me neither, just trying to get it clear as I have some 2 year pines and want to bend them.

 

[Adair M]

Well, he showed you how to proceed! Bend away!

 

[Jonas Dupuich]

Can anyone help me understand...
On the blog it says wiring 3 year old pines http://bonsaitonight.com/2013/03/29/wiring-3-year-old-black-pines/

And then one and a half year old pines http://bonsaitonight.com/2013/08/09/one-and-a-half-year-old-pine-seedlings/

And the younger ones look a lot larger than the older ones?? why is this? Ar you supposed to cut them down to wire?
I have at 1.5-2 years old pines that look like the second link way past the first link.

Good catch. It's tough to tell from the photos, but I think the 3 year old pine grew slowly the first two years, whereas the younger tree grew a bit more the first year, and a lot the second spring.

This year my 3-year old trees are about twice as tall as I've been planting the seeds earlier and feeding more. At some point I'll provide comparisons of what the trees look like at different stages to make it more clear.

As Adair suggested, once the trunk gets to a certain size it's time to start bending, no cut necessary.

 

[barrosinc]

Good catch. It's tough to tell from the photos, but I think the 3 year old pine grew slowly the first two years, whereas the younger tree grew a bit more the first year, and a lot the second spring.

This year my 3-year old trees are about twice as tall as I've been planting the seeds earlier and feeding more. At some point I'll provide comparisons of what the trees look like at different stages to make it more clear.

As Adair suggested, once the trunk gets to a certain size it's time to start bending, no cut necessary.

Thanks for the clarification Jonas.
And welcome! seems like your first post.

 

[jeanluc83]

I have found that there can be considerable variation among a batch of seedlings even when grown under identical conditions. It is not surprising that batches of trees from different years could have even more variation.

 

[jeanluc83]

Jonas, Welcome to Bnut and a big THANK YOU for providing such great articles.

 

[jeanluc83]

Jonas has had more articles in the last few months. Is there a way to edit my origional post in bnut 2.0 so I can add them?

 

[Adair M]

For those who may be interested, I spoke to Jonas back in January, and he says he's considering compiling his blog entries to make a book.

Personally, I think it would be fantastic.

 

[Baldemotions]

I plan on updating this list and using it on my web site. www.mnbonsainetwork.com Its a good list with some good information. Its a good read for sure.

 

[jeanluc83]

I just added this list to the resources section. I also included a html version for download. Simply download the file then change the file extension from .txt to .html.

http://bonsainut.com/index.php?resources/bonsai-tonight-japanese-red-black-pines-links.15/

If I get a chance this weekend I'll update it to include some of the recent articles that have been added.

 

[Jonas Dupuich]

FYI - I just put together a limited index for Bonsai Tonight at: http://bonsaitonight.com/subject-index/

As these lists are automatically collated they may be incomplete. Thanks again to Josef for getting this started!

 

[barrosinc]

What plugin did you use???
That is awesome

 

[Jonas Dupuich]

Thanks - I manually made the page by leveraging the Display Posts shortcode. The complete listing uses the Archives shortcode. I manually selected the subject areas to include based on how much I've used each tag.

 

[jeanluc83]

FYI - I just put together a limited index for Bonsai Tonight at: http://bonsaitonight.com/subject-index/

As these lists are automatically collated they may be incomplete. Thanks again to Josef for getting this started!

I was actually considering putting a complete index together manually. Your way is much better.

One of these days I'll get around to updating this list. The weather is just too nice still.

 

[Crawforde]

Bonsai Tonight

Bonsai Tonight is probably one of the best resources out there on the care and training of Japanese black and red pines. It is usually one of the first references listed when someone has questions about pines. I decided, as much for myself as others, to compile a list of all the black and red pine articles. I also induced a couple others that are applicable. I have tried to organize the links as logically as possible. I'll try to keep this updated as Jonas adds more articles. If there are any bad links or I missed an article let me know. Enjoy.

Decandling
What is decandling?
Why we decandle pine bonsai
Selecting trees for decandling
Preparing trees for decandling
When to decandle
Decandling black pine - making the cut
Techniques for controlling vigor
Making the cut - redux
Pulling pine needles
Putting it all together - approaches to decandling
Decandling - where to begin?
Decandling aftercare
Decandling a shohin black pine
And if I don’t make a square cut?

More Decandling
Sizing up candles
Summer ritual - decandling black pine
Decandling black pine - case study
Decandling basics - Japanese black pine
Decandling techniques
Decandling secrets revealed!
Why decandle?
Thinning Japanese black pine
Pine decandling
Decandling Japanese black pine
Decandling season arrives
A cutback-decandling technique
Decandling season isn't just for decandling
Young summer buds on black and red pine bonsai
Decandling projects
Pine cutback basics
Decandling and then some
Vigorous summer shoots
Decandling follow-up
Let summer buds grow
Decandling established black pines
Decandling pines in development
Decandling pines in early stages of development
Summer buds
Decandling – how late is too late? New Link

Fall Decandling
Fall decandling
More fall decandling
Fall decandling - an update
Fall decandling - thinning new buds
Fall decandling - year two
Brushing branches

Repotting
Repotting a Japanese black pine
How to repot a young Japanese black pine (1 of 2)
How to repot a young Japanese black pine (2 of 2)
Repotting a trident maple: removing the tree from the pot
Repotting a trident maple: preparing the pot
Repotting a trident maple: root-work
Repotting a trident maple: securing the tree in the pot
Repotting a trident maple: finishing touches
How to wire a bonsai pot

Growing Black and Red Pine From Seed
Pine cone technique
More pine cone technique
Pine seed prep
Planting pine seeds
How to create seedling cuttings - Japanese black pine
Pine seedlings
How to pot pine seedling-cuttings
Developing young pine bonsai
Repotting 1 year-old black pine seedlings
Wiring 3 year-old black pines
Developing young pines
One-and-a-half-year-old pine seedlings
Refining young pines
Refining a 10 year-old pine
Refining a black pine
A seedling-cutting with too many roots
Developing young pine bonsai
How to not make seedling-cuttings
Developing black pine – setting the first curves
Exposed root pines in progress

Red Pine Forest
Decandling a red pine forest
Decandling a red pine forest - part 2
Thinning a red pine forest
Decandling before and after - red pine forest
Omoshiroi red pine forest
Repotting a red pine forest
Decandling a red pine forest

Shohin Black Pine
Shohin black pine from scratch
How to decandle shohin black pine
Refining shohin black pine
Decandling shohin black pine
Decandling a shohin black pine
Where should the apex go?
Decandling a shohin black pine

Cork Bark Black Pine
Decandling cork bark Japanese black pine
Cork bark Japanese black pine - finding the front
Cleaning up a corkbark black pine
Refining a corkbark black pine
Refining cork bark black pine - decandling

From Landscape Tree to Bonsai
From landscape tree to bonsai
From landscape tree to bonsai - part 2
From landscape tree to bonsai - part 3

"Hand waving" Black Pine
Developing black pine
Decandling black pine - case study

Fertilizer
Fertilizer technique
Bonsai fertilizer - follow-up
New bonsai fertilizer

Tools
Basic Bonsai Tools
Basic bonsai tool care

Grafting
Trunk grafting - black pine
Treating a successful approach graft on black pine
Creating cork bark black pine
Creating cork bark black pine – follow-up
Encouraging grafted foliage

Substrate
Bonsai soil
Drying bonsai soil
Finding the right soil mix

Pests
Pest of the week - scale New Link
Pine needle scale New Link
Pest of the week - aphid New Link

Miscellaneous
Bonsai Tonight 1st
Summer Soji
Restoring a Japanese black pine bonsai
Of candles and cones
The easiest pine maintenance of the year
In praise of colanders
Of red pines and black pines

Updated 11/26/14

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