It is indeed electrical grafting tape. You wrap the graft area in damp sphagnum and wrap the whole scion up in plastic for 2 months.
About Princess Persimmon
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badatusernames
Omono
Very cool. I have a few young ones going and definitely lost one during a repot, the root situation seems to be a challenging one. I did get a couple of cuttings to take last year too. There’s something so alluring about these delicate beauties.
Very curious to see how the male / female grafted tree moves along!
Very curious to see how the male / female grafted tree moves along!
HamburgerTrain
Shohin
Could it possibly produce variegated fruits?
Bricker918
Mame
Can these be cut back past foliage to encourage back budding? I got a few from Julian Anderson last year and one is very leggy.
Yes, you can cut back to nothing and it will bud. However, my preference is to walk it back by cutting to the lowest leaf, however funky it may look. You will get tons of back bud options in 1 month. You should do this now, and it could have been done along with spring repotting as well. Do not touch the new shoots for at least 2 months or they will snap right off.
I'm doing this on 30 or so trees right now
Bricker918
Mame
Great! I’m going to do that right nowYes, you can cut back to nothing and it will bud. However, my preference is to walk it back by cutting to the lowest leaf, however funky it may look. You will get tons of back bud options in 1 month. You should do this now, and it could have been done along with spring repotting as well. Do not touch the new shoots for at least 2 months or they will snap right off.
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I'm doing this on 30 or so trees right now
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Thanks Nao!
vp999
Masterpiece
Now I see who’s hogging all the princess persimmon, any chance you’re willing to sell me one with a chunk trunk Nao ?
Hit me up in winter when I can actually ship. I plan to sell PP on a regular basis soon
vp999
Masterpiece
namnhi
Masterpiece
You only have another 180 days to go.
vp999
Masterpiece
In 1.5 hrs ...it will only be 179 days to go
BonsaiDTLA
Shohin
In 1.5 hrs ...it will only be 179 days to go
vp999
Masterpiece
What is the best time to wire them ? I managed to killed a couple last couple weeks.
Gabler
Masterpiece
I can't tell if you're joking of not. In case you're not joking, you strangled your tree to death with all that wire, and then tied its corpse into knots for good measure. At first, I actually thought it was just a wire sculpture.
vp999
Masterpiece
I was inspired by those twisted trunk shohin shimpaku junipers. I twisted the trunk to make it appear bigger. Maybe I just chose a wrong time of the year for it. Can’t learn if you don’t try right… expensive lesson lol. Thanks
BTW … It wouldn’t have been awesome looking once the wires removed…. Had it survived lol.
Gabler
Masterpiece
As a consolation, you now have an awesome wire sculpture.
I don't think your problem was the time of year. You just really can't put that much of a bend in that thick a branch all at once on a deciduous tree.
I tend to prefer a more naturalistic style for my trees, so I use less wire than the average bonsai hobbyist, but I always advocate to use wire very sparingly. That is to say, I try to avoid wiring any deciduous tree branch that's two or more years in age, and I only wire maybe a third of the branches at most.
Lastly, guy wires are your friend. Wherever practicable, use them instead of coiling wire around the branch.
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vp999
Masterpiece
Thank you! I understand what you're saying ...But how do you achieve something like this with guy wires?
Nice effort! I can't say that I've killed a tree by wire. Did the roots get messed up by all that wiggling? I have killed branches. I kill branches any time of the year with micro-breaks. Very large branches you can break in half no problem. @vp999 I bet that twisty one was done in the green branch state.
I did want to say usually the weird structure in PP is achieved with root cuttings. Here are some inspirational Japanese shohin:
I want to talk about this next one from the Kokufu this year. It is made of separate root fragments or one twisted root chunk.
So I wanted to recreate it. I saved up the genetically identical root fragments from the year before.
....and compose them into believable root chunks
it's working well!
vp999
Masterpiece
You are correct sir! The tree was green lol. I got too ambitious. I cannot wait until you start selling your PP.
