Watering wand

I have used both the Roth and the Dramm red but I prefer the Dramm. You do need good water pressure though.
What can you do about the water pressure issue? I used mine today for the first time and it sucked. I wanted so bad to love it, but it was a joke. Does changing the head do anything for it or is it the wand itself?
 
What can you do about the water pressure issue? I used mine today for the first time and it sucked. I wanted so bad to love it, but it was a joke. Does changing the head do anything for it or is it the wand itself?
There are heads with fewer holes but it negates what I like about the 1000 hole Dramm.

I have two outdoor faucets. The water pressure between the two is significant. The one to my garden that I use for my Dramm is before the water pressure reaches the pressure reducer valve for my whole house. The other outdoor faucet is after the pressure reducer valve. The water pressure at this one would not be enough for the 1000 hole Dramm. I suppose you could adjust the pressure reducer valve but you run the risk of damaging appliances in your hose or causing leaks. It is probably a question for a plumber.
 
There are heads with fewer holes but it negates what I like about the 1000 hole Dramm.

I have two outdoor faucets. The water pressure between the two is significant. The one to my garden that I use for my Dramm is before the water pressure reaches the pressure reducer valve for my whole house. The other outdoor faucet is after the pressure reducer valve. The water pressure at this one would not be enough for the 1000 hole Dramm. I suppose you could adjust the pressure reducer valve but you run the risk of damaging appliances in your hose or causing leaks. It is probably a question for a plumber.

Thats kinda what I've been gathering, that the less holes there are, the better the pressure is. Is that correct to assume? Yeah, it does pretty much does defeat the purpose, but anything's gotta be better with what I've got going on right now. I'm going to try the 170 and see how that works. If that's night and day I may go for an in between model. Thanks for the input!
 
I finally assembled a Dramm 1000, hoping for nirvana vs the dramm 400 I previously used. I could post picks, but the link to the Amazon ‘wand’ above has pics on Amazon that show the issue.

For me, the issue with both is, at partial volume flow/pressure, they spit out water - no mist, just a ‘stream’. At full volume/pressure, they are high velocity at about 0-8” from the head - totally washing soil away. (They are ‘soft’ if you hold the wand a foot or two away from the trees).

When held back from the trees, both work well, giving a nice mist (1000 a little better than the 400).

However, I prefer to only water the soil - neither works for watering only the soil.

I hate to drop more $ on this, since a generic water can works well enough (except for having to do multiple refills). But I’m looking for something that would have the water head an inch or two above the soil and not wash it away.

Maybe Kaneshin next….
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I picked up the 170 and it was only slightly better. I had a generic brand watering wand off amazon that had zero issues. Looks like its time to go back to that, I'll just be a little more careful with the trigger......
 
A club member posted this on the club Facebook page Eley click on Products, Watering tools and Brass Watering Nozzle set. He also bought the brass garden hose nozzle. I may get the Brass Watering Nozzle set and attached to my watering wand.
He said he was really pleased and posted a video watering one of his trees. The stream of water was fine droplets and didn't disturb and mix.
 
I finally assembled a Dramm 1000, hoping for nirvana vs the dramm 400 I previously used. I could post picks, but the link to the Amazon ‘wand’ above has pics on Amazon that show the issue.

For me, the issue with both is, at partial volume flow/pressure, they spit out water - no mist, just a ‘stream’. At full volume/pressure, they are high velocity at about 0-8” from the head - totally washing soil away. (They are ‘soft’ if you hold the wand a foot or two away from the trees).

When held back from the trees, both work well, giving a nice mist (1000 a little better than the 400).

However, I prefer to only water the soil - neither works for watering only the soil.

I hate to drop more $ on this, since a generic water can works well enough (except for having to do multiple refills). But I’m looking for something that would have the water head an inch or two above the soil and not wash it away.

Maybe Kaneshin next….
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Are you pointing the head down? If you turn the wand over the water goes up in an arc and falls gently on the soil.
Sorry if you already know this
 
😁 Hey Mike! Yeah, I have the head turned up. And it does work well giving a soft stream , but when I’m a foot or two away from the tree.

I was really looking for something that I could use to just water the soil - I’ve had fungal issues on leaves, so I try to only water the soil - but, I’m making an assumption that not watering the leaves helps control this. (I tend to water in the late afternoon-it may be better if I could water in the morning).

I can control a water can by ‘dribbling’ out the water - it’s probably too much to expect a water rose to be able to do this when connected to city water pressure. Or, maybe I should try something with fewer holes, that may work better for my intended usage…
 
Are you using any anti fungal protocols? It rains a lot where I live and never had any fungal issues until 10 years ago, now I treat all susceptible plants with Bonide Infuse systemic and
I can and do (especially when its really hot) spray the foliage, pots, trunks, benches with reckless abandon.
 
I finally assembled a Dramm 1000, hoping for nirvana vs the dramm 400 I previously used. I could post picks, but the link to the Amazon ‘wand’ above has pics on Amazon that show the issue.

For me, the issue with both is, at partial volume flow/pressure, they spit out water - no mist, just a ‘stream’. At full volume/pressure, they are high velocity at about 0-8” from the head - totally washing soil away. (They are ‘soft’ if you hold the wand a foot or two away from the trees).

When held back from the trees, both work well, giving a nice mist (1000 a little better than the 400).

However, I prefer to only water the soil - neither works for watering only the soil.

I hate to drop more $ on this, since a generic water can works well enough (except for having to do multiple refills). But I’m looking for something that would have the water head an inch or two above the soil and not wash it away.

Maybe Kaneshin next….
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I'm in the same camp as you. I bought about six different Dramm heads (and some off-brand copies) before finally settling on the 9-function adjustable head from Dramm:


On the "rain" setting, I can adjust my water pressure to be able to put the water exactly where I want it, without disturbing soil, and from only a few inches away. Some of the other settings are occasionally useful for blasting foliage to reduce spider mites, or using the "mist" setting when desired. I'd buy something more expensive, but this thing works flawlessly.
 
Are you using any anti fungal protocols? It rains a lot where I live and never had any fungal issues until 10 years ago, now I treat all susceptible plants with Bonide Infuse systemic and
I can and do (especially when its really hot) spray the foliage, pots, trunks, benches with reckless abandon.
I have use Infuse, but as granules applied to the soil. Maybe I should spring for the spray….
 
I'm in the same camp as you. I bought about six different Dramm heads (and some off-brand copies) before finally settling on the 9-function adjustable head from Dramm:


On the "rain" setting, I can adjust my water pressure to be able to put the water exactly where I want it, without disturbing soil, and from only a few inches away. Some of the other settings are occasionally useful for blasting foliage to reduce spider mites, or using the "mist" setting when desired. I'd buy something more expensive, but this thing works flawlessly.
Thanks! This sounds great, it’s on order😁
 
I finally assembled a Dramm 1000, hoping for nirvana vs the dramm 400 I previously used. I could post picks, but the link to the Amazon ‘wand’ above has pics on Amazon that show the issue.

For me, the issue with both is, at partial volume flow/pressure, they spit out water - no mist, just a ‘stream’. At full volume/pressure, they are high velocity at about 0-8” from the head - totally washing soil away. (They are ‘soft’ if you hold the wand a foot or two away from the trees).

I can vouch for the Masakuni wand. Its incredibly soft water even at low volume. (At high volume its soft as well, but low volume & soft is harder to come by.) If I couldn't find that, I might go w/ the Joshua Roth brand, but it has plastic components. I'd also seriously consider the wands that Jonas has. I haven't looked lately but remember them being a bit pricier.

I've used the Dramm 1000 Red, and still do when I need to put down a lot of water, but for my trees in pots, I prefer the japanese style wands. I've posted about it on several of these threads where you can find pictures if you'd like.
 
Thanks! This sounds great, it’s on order😁
FWIW, I have this head. It's mostly meh for bonsai:rolleyes:. I've got a number of Dramm heads and "shower heads" etc from western garden suppliers, none really match up to the Masakuni wand. I keep hoping one will, so far, uh uh.

Bottom line, The Dramms tend to dribble at lower pressure and have too much pressure when opened up.
 
FWIW, I have this head. It's mostly meh for bonsai:rolleyes:. I've got a number of Dramm heads and "shower heads" etc from western garden suppliers, none really match up to the Masakuni wand. I keep hoping one will, so far, uh uh.

Bottom line, The Dramms tend to dribble at lower pressure and have too much pressure when opened up.
Unfortunately my web search turned up dry for a Masakuni nozzle or wand. The Cal Bonsai site was ‘private’(!), and j- bonsai was out of stock (as was Kaizen in England). I’m not sure what brand Bonsai Tonight is selling - the price seems ok, but I can see there’s some work to make it functional with a hose.

I’ll try the dramm and see how it works. But, if anyone has any leads on Masakuni, I’d appreciate it.
 
There are heads with fewer holes but it negates what I like about the 1000 hole Dramm.

I have two outdoor faucets. The water pressure between the two is significant. The one to my garden that I use for my Dramm is before the water pressure reaches the pressure reducer valve for my whole house. The other outdoor faucet is after the pressure reducer valve. The water pressure at this one would not be enough for the 1000 hole Dramm. I suppose you could adjust the pressure reducer valve but you run the risk of damaging appliances in your hose or causing leaks. It is probably a question for a plumber.
What can you do about the water pressure issue? I used mine today for the first time and it sucked. I wanted so bad to love it, but it was a joke. Does changing the head do anything for it or is it the wand itself?
Try a wider gauge hose. 5/8-3/4.
 
Unfortunately my web search turned up dry for a Masakuni nozzle or wand. The Cal Bonsai site was ‘private’(!), and j- bonsai was out of stock (as was Kaizen in England). I’m not sure what brand Bonsai Tonight is selling - the price seems ok, but I can see there’s some work to make it functional with a hose.

I’ll try the dramm and see how it works. But, if anyone has any leads on Masakuni, I’d appreciate it.
You can get masakuni wands on Ebay or on Etsy. Just do a search on "Masakuni watering wand" or "Kaneshin Watering Wand". There are a few options for both ranging greatly in pricing. I've got the longest copper Kaneshin wand -with an inline valve lever.. It wasn't cheap, but they make another chrome metal options that is the same design, but cheaper. I'd recommend the longer versions if you have a number of trees on benches. The wand I have is all metal. Some of the less expensive models have plastic nozzle collars, which can break if you tighten or drop them, but they're not expensive to replace, though. Some of the more expensive ones don't have the traditional female hose connectors on them. Don't be put off by that. They're easy to install with a hose clamp and some other stuff. Other models do have the female connectors.
 
You can get masakuni wands on Ebay or on Etsy. Just do a search on "Masakuni watering wand" or "Kaneshin Watering Wand". There are a few options for both ranging greatly in pricing. I've got the longest copper Kaneshin wand -with an inline valve lever.. It wasn't cheap, but they make another chrome metal options that is the same design, but cheaper. I'd recommend the longer versions if you have a number of trees on benches. The wand I have is all metal. Some of the less expensive models have plastic nozzle collars, which can break if you tighten or drop them, but they're not expensive to replace, though. Some of the more expensive ones don't have the traditional female hose connectors on them. Don't be put off by that. They're easy to install with a hose clamp and some other stuff. Other models do have the female connectors.
I didn’t think of trying eBay or Etsy, assuming this was too ‘off the beaten path’.

I’ve no problem figuring out how to get it to work, unfortunately I’ve done too much plumbing. But, I do like plug n play 😂

Many thanks!!
 
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