leatherback
The Treedeemer
No?
4k is a bargain ..
I do not have 4K invested in all my trees together! (granted, all sticks in pots)
Thoughts on Today's Bonsai Mirai Tree Sale?
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4k is a bargain ..
I do not have 4K invested in all my trees together! (granted, all sticks in pots)
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
Well, um, most of us aren't Ryan....just pointing that out.Just gonna point out - several of the Mirai trees were nursery trees that Ryan styled and developed over a few years.
I was impressed with how he air-layered it
Not understanding what you're looking at in a nursery crawl is the problem for most of those shopping there--the vast majority of Ryans trees are not from nurseries--also do you think those trees were worth what was paid? I don't.... It's one thing to find worthy material and understand what to do with it. It's quite another to buy a tree with no real potential just because its has a price tag under $50.
Timarsen
Seedling
Not to be too flippant, but Oregon is actually the nursery stock capital of the USA growing over a third of all nursery stock in the country, so their nurseries are the best in the country....
Timarsen
Seedling
Here's an Amur Maple I snagged last year in a Tom Benda pot for $350 (crappy photography is mine):
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
I think all the $350 (ish) trees this year were relatively small junipers but only caught a glimpse of them before they were taken down. No idea what kind of containers they were in.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Not to be too flippant, but Oregon is actually the nursery stock capital of the USA growing over a third of all nursery stock in the country, so their nurseries are the best in the country....
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Hm.. Is the pot that valuable? Or do I own a very valuable amur without knowing it?
I really need to start re-evaluating the prices I ask for my trees!
Sold this for 200E / 225 USD this year. Did I as k too little?
Kadebe
Chumono
Well, that doesn't necessary mean they are the best. Quantity doesn't matter... quality mattersNot to be too flippant, but Oregon is actually the nursery stock capital of the USA growing over a third of all nursery stock in the country, so their nurseries are the best in the country....
Kadebe
Chumono
I think, when I go Gingko center next spring, and I find one like this for 200 euro, I'll take it right away
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Hm..
smc
Sapling
I would gladly pay $225 for that right now. Though I am not that experienced (so maybe don't price off of me).
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Due to popular demand, they just put all the trees back up on the sale page so you can see exactly what sold, what the prices were, etc. I assume this is a link that will work for anyone. The blue rug juniper everyone was wondering about was $1800.
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smc
Sapling
leatherback
The Treedeemer
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Yeah, you know...there is definitely a significant "hero worship" component in the Mirai crowd. I see it on their forum and on the chats during the livestreams, some of those people go gaga over him. Such is life. I respect his knowledge and experience and what he has built out there and would like to own one of his trees someday, but it will have to be the right one. Not something I have to decide on within 5 minutes of seeing the first photo.
Kadebe
Chumono
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Insane.
I need to re-evaluate my trees. CLearly.
Had not seen them. Do not normally look at these sort of websites.
Timarsen
Seedling
Well, no shit.. but most nurseries in America get their trees from this region, so the nurseries that are down the road from the growers are probably gonna get better quality trees than the nurseries 3000 miles away getting their trees 3 middlemen later off the back of a truck.Well, that doesn't necessary mean they are the best. Quantity doesn't matter... quality matters
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Devil's advocate.. The more part of the tree die-off on the way, the better the tree becomes for bonsai.
In the end, you want nurseries that are not large-scale professional growers for trade. You want the mom-and-pop nursery growing they own trees and then find their stock-tree, or forgotten plant in the corner. Not the commercial hedging material. (Although I did make a nice formal upright of a nuersry stock yew-for-hedges)
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
But you see, the type of tree they build for the nursery business is not something that has much value for us in the bonsai world. That is why the old mom and pops were the place to find trees that could be made into bonsai with character. I mean most deciduous has nothing but a phone pole trunk in the nursery biz...Well, no shit.. but most nurseries in America get their trees from this region, so the nurseries that are down the road from the growers are probably gonna get better quality trees than the nurseries 3000 miles away getting their trees 3 middlemen later off the back of a truck.
