Minimum Requirements

Cadillactaste said:
So your talking an angle change when it's repotted in the spring? If I go that route. Would need to look for a pot. Over potting basically.
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Yes, since it's hard to put a cascade like that in the ground - you could, but the cascade would then stick up in the air. The only reason to put it back in the ground or a huge pot is to really get new growth/thickening of the base (new/old roots and trunk base) quickly. In a small pot it will take many years.
 
grouper52 said:
Yes, since it's hard to put a cascade like that in the ground - you could, but the cascade would then stick up in the air. The only reason to put it back in the ground or a huge pot is to really get new growth/thickening of the base (new/old roots and trunk base) quickly. In a small pot it will take many years.
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Ahhh...it's a root cutting. So would it thicken as you say at the trunk base? It's just now developing bark on the trunk.
 
Trunk, and the old current roots, and any nascent new roots that sprout from the nicks made in the bark of the base or the old roots - ALL these would grow/thicken much quicker in a huge new container or the ground, producing a better base and a more attractive exposed roots than what you have now, it seems to me.
 
Newbie perspective on BNut.

Took me a LONG time for me to figure out that it isn’t the ANSWER, but the SOURCE that is important. Different opinions, perspectives, technical type, etc. provide a cacophony of different answers. It can be very confusing to newbies. If some of the veteran Bnutters wonder why some basic questions get posted over and over. And why newbies don’t seem to do much “research” before posting a question - it’s because there are 100 different answers posted by 200 different people. (And the search function kinda sucks - sorry Admin...)

I’m not really a fan of censoring or stopping the discussion, I think everyone should say WHAT they want. And it would be super helpful to know a bit more about WHO is saying it. You can’t stop fake news - you can only question the source.

1.) Remove Messages/Reaction Score. I have no idea what use this has. At the beginning - I thought that these were good indicators of level of experience, knowledge, etc. But it isn’t - its just means posting activity; which is not the best indicator of bonsai knowledge. It is confusing to newbies and really just indicates “size of mouth”. (Some of the large mouths are good tho!:)

2.) Replace Message/Reaction Score with more helpful indicators of experience/knowledge/technique/style/etc. ie:
- Time in Bonsai: List start year/length of time in bonsai (though I think Peter Warren said, “Some people do bonsai for 30 years and others do bonsai 1 year, 30 times”)
- Bonsai Style: Classic Japanese, Naturalistic, American, Avant-Garde, just plain weird, etc.
- Technique Type: Classic Japanese techniques, non traditional techniques, technical alchemist, etc.
- Awards/Accolades/Publications/ClubMembership/ClubPresident
- Last Show entered
- Species Specialties

Just suggestions - I know that none of them completely encapsulates the users experience and/or knowledge. I am not advocating for anything specific on the list, but wonder if there is a way that users can start to distinguish between other people’s perspectives, habits, opinions, experience, education, etc. There are some users that I trust, some that I don’t and some that I respect - but are just different in style and technique. Some users opinions/techniques can be mixed - maybe some cannot? Not a judgment - just a difference in perspectives and opinions.

I wish I had figured out earlier;
- whose advice I should take and whose advice I should not
- whose closest to my personal style/taste/techniques
- not everything on the internet is true
 
grouper52 said:
Trunk, and the old current roots, and any nascent new roots that sprout from the nicks made in the bark of the base or the old roots - ALL these would grow/thicken much quicker in a huge new container or the ground, producing a better base and a more attractive exposed roots than what you have now, it seems to me.
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Appreciate your guidance. Will chew it over...and possibly look for a pot. 😉 Never assumed the root cutting would be anything more than a curvy non-tapered trunk. The movement made me make the purchase. That it could have taper...makes me pause.
 
So far....the same crowd is the most vocal. No one likes to have their tree talked about in a bad light. Me included, thats why I became better. Now there have been some very pointed comments made about my past history here. What no one seems to ever talk about is the legitimacy of my questions. I have never ( there are those that will disagree, but please share the proof) just ever come into a thread and told someone that their tree is shit. Ever. I may ask why they are doing what their doing, and they become defensive and then the thread goes to hell, cause they don't know anything and have nothing really to say in defence of their work and so just blow shit.

As an example, lets look at this thread. Very recent, and I only said one thing and the whole exchange of ideas stopped....Why?

Help with Trident Maple

Got this tree from Brent Walston @ Evergreen. I am thinking of trunk chopping next Spring just above the first branch and letting that be the new leader to create taper and then let it continue to grow. Is this a good idea? Any suggestions in preparing this tree to become a worthy bonsai. Thanks...
www.bonsainut.com www.bonsainut.com
 
I can tell you why. But I'll save it for now.

There is a commonality in that thread and it is surprising to me.

Does anyone know what it is?
 
I am and it was a legit question. Smokes whole point seems to be centered around tough love. If i say my son sucks at baseball it will motive him to get better.
 
Warpig said:
I am
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Oh I know You do.

That's his point too. Or I assume.

How in the fuuuuuck would one have a shit tree and no new skills after 3 years?

Of course....I can't speak for Smoke.
But this is a bit ridiculous.

I don't say shit to my son about b-ball and he kills everyone! Hehehehe!

Sorce
 
Smoke said:
So far....the same crowd is the most vocal. No one likes to have their tree talked about in a bad light. Me included, thats why I became better. Now there have been some very pointed comments made about my past history here. What no one seems to ever talk about is the legitimacy of my questions. I have never ( there are those that will disagree, but please share the proof) just ever come into a thread and told someone that their tree is shit. Ever. I may ask why they are doing what their doing, and they become defensive and then the thread goes to hell, cause they don't know anything and have nothing really to say in defence of their work and so just blow shit.

As an example, lets look at this thread. Very recent, and I only said one thing and the whole exchange of ideas stopped....Why?

Help with Trident Maple

Got this tree from Brent Walston @ Evergreen. I am thinking of trunk chopping next Spring just above the first branch and letting that be the new leader to create taper and then let it continue to grow. Is this a good idea? Any suggestions in preparing this tree to become a worthy bonsai. Thanks...
www.bonsainut.com www.bonsainut.com
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You didn't offer advice...none at all. 🤔 And this is why this new thread post was created. To get Greg to agree to your demands? Interesting...
 
Cadillactaste said:
You didn't offer advice...none at all. 🤔 And this is why this new thread post was created. To get Greg to agree to your demands? Interesting...
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Ok so that might make sense. Assuming smokes goal is to make better teachers not better trees.
 
I think smoke has a point because there are a lot of people saying a lot of things but no one is sharing their trees as photo evidence of their experiences. You can’t really know if you are getting good advice without knowing if that poster even owns a maple.
 
Not just that they didn't share a tree there...that's an unnecessary requirement.

But you can't recall them posting theirs anywhere here.

I think that's the commonality.

Voiceless voices.

Sorce
 
Cable said:
I'm not sure how well telling Walter Pall, Adair, Vance, etc. that they have to either write an article once a year or gtfo would be received.
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I don't remember the GTFO part. Could you put that line in quotes for me please? My beef isn't with Walter, Adair or Vance. Those men have shared plenty and have never been asked to. Frankly it wasn't needed because they have much to give. There is a difference.
 
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