mail order azaleas Sept 2020

These are some to consider for next time (if you can find them):

‘Christie Gutierrez’ [Holly Springs]
‘Dr. Fred Vines’ [Holly Springs]
‘Holly Springs Doubloon’ [Holly Springs]
‘Sensuous’ [Holly Springs]
‘Ann Lee McPhail’ [Harris]
‘Joe Klimavicz’ [Stewart]

But that's just my taste.
Each one of these are going down on my list to find, I like them as well. I just put in a wish list for another 28 satsuki's. Hopefully they will be available for me to purchase next spring/summer.
 
Each one of these are going down on my list to find, I like them as well. I just put in a wish list for another 28 satsuki's. Hopefully they will be available for me to purchase next spring/summer.
An ambitious plan. I like it!

In a year or less those Azalea Hill plants will be gallon size from the looks of them. I believe Nuccios indicated to me that many of their cuttings went to gallon size in 2.5 year.

I’m excited to get home to see the new plants I received from Ronnie at Azalea Hill too. The report I got indicated a number of these were good sized!

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An ambitious plan. I like it!

In a year or less those Azalea Hill plants will be gallon size from the looks of them. I believe Nuccios indicated to me that many of their cuttings went to gallon size in 2.5 year.

I’m excited to get home to see the new plants I received from Ronnie at Azalea Hill too. The report I got indicated a number of these were good sized!

Cheers
DSD sends
I plan to start taking cuttings next year right after their flush hardens off a bit. I need to keep these small to reserve space on the table for new cultivars.

What did you order? If you're interested maybe we can trade if we both have something the other is looking for.....could save us time and money.
 
Sure thing!

I’ve a large order coming in from Nuccios Thursday evening also. I’ll put together a list of existing and new cultivars after I get back and settled and PM you then.

I’ve some cultivars saved for @Harunobu, but given good winter survival and growing next spring, there will be a goody amount to go around besides those I’m using to grow out whips.

cheers
DSD sends
 
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Sure thing!

I’ve a large order coming in from Nuccios Thursday evening also. I’ll put together a list of existing and new cultivars after I get back and settled and PM you then.

I’ve some cultivars saved for @Harunobu, but given good winter survival and growing next spring, there will be a goody amount to go around besides those I’m using to grow out whips.

cheers
DSD sends
I'll make a list of what I have here and PM you.
 
On the long term, I may be able to get some of these azaleas:

This is like a part-time nursery for satsuki cuttings. They have a lot of new satsuki cultivar. They are producing some plants every year. During the flowering season, they are put on sale but they sell out quite quickly. So they cannot keep up with the demand as of now. I hope to get plants like 'Kisshoten', 'Hanatsuzuri', 'Chihiro', 'Irodori', 'Hanamaiko', 'Karenbana', 'Kanuma no Kagayaki', 'Kinsho', 'Saishun', 'Umihotaru'.

Eventually, I could trade those to the US. But first I have to see if I can get them myself, get a bigger garden, grow them larger, and then we can see.
 
Ya'all have gone down the azalea rabbit hole. I'm with you.

@Pitoon - I think in building your "collection for propagation", if it were me, I would focus on cultivars with good bonsai traits, and a wide range of flower types. This being a focus over whether they are "pure" satsuki or whether they are Japanese in origin. Importing from Japan or Netherlands requires complex paperwork and quarantine requirements, not something worth while unless you want to regularly make thousand dollar plus size importations as the cost of paperwork alone will run in the hundreds.

So my focus would be smaller leaves, ability to "trunk up", some that are uprights, some that spread, enough winter hardiness to be fine outdoors in your winters, or with minimal extra protection. Then having met these traits, look for a range of colors, styles, and flower sizes, small flowers are better for traditional bonsai, big flowers are a love for people who like to show (for example, "Peoples Choice" bonsai winners). But definitely choose flowers for types, narrow petals, wide petals, fireworks and spider petals. Also, full camellia flowered doubles, hose in hose doubles, singles and other various forms. Look for the green flowered satsuki offered at one time by Bill Valavanis. Try to avoid too many of any one style, for example too many white center with pink margins on a "standard shaped flower". One or two good cultivars is enough. Keep an eye toward diversity in your collection. At least that is what I would do.

A great project. Could easily be a part time business, maybe even more than part time.
 
If you are going down the collecting rabbit hole, I would say to try avoid getting cultivar that are very similar. In the compleye landscape of azaleas, there are many that are near-identical. And look for landmark azaleas like Kozan, Issho-no-Haru, Matsunami, Juko, Suisen, Yata no Kagami, Kobai, Wakaebisu, Osakazuki, Kinsai. Trunk up well would be a synonym for 'growing fast'.

Azaleas with larger leaves generally grow faster. Some of the nicest cultivar for small bonsai like Kozan, Aozora or Kobai grow very slowly.
For beginners, I think Kinsai, Hanabin, Yata no Kagami, Shiryu no Homare and Matsunami are good. Probably Wakaebisu as well.
For thickening trunks, probably Kaho/Gyoten or Eikan/Asahizuru/Asahi no Hikari (plus a greenhouse).

I'll try to find a fast growing small flowering winter-hardy variety that is nice for bonsai among my seeds. I wish my Matsunami produced more seeds.

Trading unrooted cuttings internationally is very doable.
 
Just for fun and to add on a bit on top of @Harunobu's list .

Here is a traditional list of bonsai cultivars recommended by Naka, Ota, and Rokkaku in their Bonsai Techniques for Satsuki I've complied for the new Evergreen Azalea Tutorial.

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Satsuki deemed suitable for Bonsai in "Bonsai Techniques for Satsuki", Naka, Ota, Rokkku, 1979
Chiyo-no-HikariGyotenHakatajiro
Hikari-noTsukasaHakureiIzayoi
KahoKinzai (Kinsai)Koganenishiki
KogetsuKomeiKorin
KozanKozan-no-HikariMatsunami
MatsukagamiMeikyoNikko
NyohozanOsakazukiRinpu
Sachi-no-HanaSakurakagamiSecchu-no-Matsu
ShinkyoShuho-no-HikariTakasago
Yata-no-KagamiYama-no-Hikari
 
Ya'all have gone down the azalea rabbit hole. I'm with you.

@Pitoon - I think in building your "collection for propagation", if it were me, I would focus on cultivars with good bonsai traits, and a wide range of flower types. This being a focus over whether they are "pure" satsuki or whether they are Japanese in origin. Importing from Japan or Netherlands requires complex paperwork and quarantine requirements, not something worth while unless you want to regularly make thousand dollar plus size importations as the cost of paperwork alone will run in the hundreds.

So my focus would be smaller leaves, ability to "trunk up", some that are uprights, some that spread, enough winter hardiness to be fine outdoors in your winters, or with minimal extra protection. Then having met these traits, look for a range of colors, styles, and flower sizes, small flowers are better for traditional bonsai, big flowers are a love for people who like to show (for example, "Peoples Choice" bonsai winners). But definitely choose flowers for types, narrow petals, wide petals, fireworks and spider petals. Also, full camellia flowered doubles, hose in hose doubles, singles and other various forms. Look for the green flowered satsuki offered at one time by Bill Valavanis. Try to avoid too many of any one style, for example too many white center with pink margins on a "standard shaped flower". One or two good cultivars is enough. Keep an eye toward diversity in your collection. At least that is what I would do.

A great project. Could easily be a part time business, maybe even more than part time.
I understand exactly what you are saying when you look at it strictly for bonsai. However I don't plan to limit myself to only bonsai. There's a great deal of azalea enthusiasts that collect azaleas to plant in their gardens as well.

I need to find an azalea encyclopedia so I can get names, colors, and flower types in order.
 
This ships international:

Only satsuki though. So for international azalea:

This is the closest thing to a satsuki dictionary online, but Japanese only:

There are two pages with list in alphabetical order. But it is all kanji.

But you can use this to translate what the kanji are:

If you read hiragana (sorry).
 
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In addition to @Harunobu Satsuki Dictionary and sketchy internet resources, Galles Azaleas is pretty much the major content resource for all azaleas up to the time it was published in 1985, I haven’t found many US sold azaleas that aren’t in there except the Huang cultivars. It a certainty there are lots of others yet it seems the US doesn’t get many of these newer cultivars yet.
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@Harunobu thanks for that link. I just ordered the book should be here next week. I found that book yesterday from a website in the Netherlands and was going to order it, but it was actually cheaper to order it directly from Japan.
 
Hi,
Can’t import live material, so I am resorting to seed which @Harunobu is kindly growing for me and many others.
There was a large number of Satsuki cultivars imported in the 70’s and 80’s before importing became so tough, but many are lost now due to very little interest and the gardeners replacing them with other plants all together.
Hope that satisfies the “why”.
I am growing about 25 different Kurume which are very showy, to keep enjoying my Azalea growing.
Charles
 
Hi,
Can’t import live material, so I am resorting to seed which @Harunobu is kindly growing for me and many others.
There was a large number of Satsuki cultivars imported in the 70’s and 80’s before importing became so tough, but many are lost now due to very little interest and the gardeners replacing them with other plants all together.
Hope that satisfies the “why”.
I am growing about 25 different Kurume which are very showy, to keep enjoying my Azalea growing.
Charles
I didn't realize your location didn't give the same opportunities in in terms of availability with satsuki's. At least with you growing by seed you can open up a new frontier in your country by potentially growing new cultivars and expanding the availability.
 
I just locked in/reserved a 45 cultivar order.......however they won't be ready till this time next year. That would put me in at 62 satsuki cultivars not including what I pick up from now to then.
 
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