jriddell88
Omono
You can super glue it back on !
JWP Pick the front!
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Really???? Given your predilection for classical Bonsai, I am really surprised you would even take a workshop with Dan. You have to know that probably most of what he teaches will be at odds with your philosophy.
Don't get me wrong! I would love to do a workshop with Dan...(I have a conflicting demo). I think he is as masterful in his own way as any of the top bonsai dogs...just surprised you would even go there??? I am sure you are considering his carving prowess but even so it seems like just an opportunity to be disappointed for you???
I have found that taking my time with my JWP is about the only way to keep it happy! too much, too fast and she will sulk for a long time
John,
I agree. It was for the deadwood that I was thinking about it. But, I was going to do more research on him before I committed.
Yes, JWP are far more "delicate" than other pines.
Any pine responds better with doing a little consistent work at the right time than trying to do a lot of drastic work all at once.
I agree. It was for the deadwood that I was thinking about it. But, I was going to do more research on him before I committed.
Yes, JWP are far more "delicate" than other pines.
Any pine responds better with doing a little consistent work at the right time than trying to do a lot of drastic work all at once.
Really???? Given your predilection for classical Bonsai, I am really surprised you would even take a workshop with Dan. You have to know that probably most of what he teaches will be at odds with your philosophy.
Don't get me wrong! I would love to do a workshop with Dan...(I have a conflicting demo). I think he is as masterful in his own way as any of the top bonsai dogs...just surprised you would even go there??? I am sure you are considering his carving prowess but even so it seems like just an opportunity to be disappointed for you???
I have found that taking my time with my JWP is about the only way to keep it happy! too much, too fast and she will sulk for a long time
John, upon further reflection, I decided you're right. I wouldn't enjoy the workshop, and neither would he.
I guess I'm just not gnarly enough!
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Eat some Wheaties and go. Get out of your comfort zone.
I would think if one could afford it,it would be a good learning experience to see and learn from all kinds of different people.
wireme
Masterpiece
And then running it on recycled veggie oil from restaurants. Just as good in its own strange way it could be argued.
Dav4
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Oooohhhhh, a tesla that smells like chicken tenders and French fries, yummm!
Oh, gosh! You reminded me!
As a Real Estate agent, you run into all kinds...
I did list a house where the owner had converted some kind of Volkswagon diesel to run on veggie oil. He had a shed where he parked it, with jugs of the stuff he collected from various local restaurants, then filtered it...
Well, you can imagine what the shed garage smelled like. Slippery floor... The smell even seemed to be inside the house, too, even though the garage shed was not attached. I believe he tracked it in from getting the oil on his shoes from the garage. He was a Seventh Day Adventist, too. No showings on Saturday. Even though this was a second home, and he was in Florida, we couldn't show on Saturday! He had an alarm system that alerted him whenever someone entered his home.
No, I was unable to sell his house.
The car still had to run diesel. He'd start it with diesel, get it warmed up good, then he could reach under the dash, and turn a valve that would switch from diesel to cooking oil. On his way home, he'd have to remember to switch back to diesel for a Mile or so, because if the injector was still pumping cooking oil when he parked it, it wouldn't start the next time.
Back on topic:
I'll probably take the wire off sometime in the next week. Then let it rest a couple weeks before wiring again.
augustine
Chumono
Adair,
This is a beautiful tree, congrats! Question, please: Does lodgepole (if it is lodgepole) pine take well to container culture?
Thanks
This is a beautiful tree, congrats! Question, please: Does lodgepole (if it is lodgepole) pine take well to container culture?
Thanks
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Dan sounds like my kind of guy. And believe me,I would if I could. In a heartbeat.
If I could I would take classes with Boon also.
Things to be learned from both I'd wager.
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
I don't know. This one was grafted 20 years ago. I'm pretty sure it was in a container when it was grafted.
So, are you worried about the Lodgepole roots? Trunk? Graft Union? The foliage is JWP.
It's in Boon Mix. Has been for the past 15 or so years we know about.
Now, what's your question again?
I don't know why it was grafted. Maybe there weren't low branches on the Lodgepole trunk, and since it needed to be grafted to put on low branches, why not put on "pretty" foliage? Maybe Lodgepole foliage doesn't reduce well. I honestly don't know.
But, I think 20 years says that it will grow in a container!
Don Blackmond
Omono
Actually, a jin is one of the easiest things to put back on. Just pin and glue, sand and age.
I would think that a the Robinson workshop would be a perfect experience for furthering your education/training and making your personal taste and skills better. Sometimes learning more about what you don't like makes you do better at what you do like (substitute "prefer" for "like", if your prefer). I'd go, but take a different tree.
I like your tree more in the 1st photo for the reason stated previously. That is now, in its current state. That doesn't mean I'll hold the same opinion after it has been rewired, or after another year or growth, or five years, etc. Many people don't look far enough into the future when they make decisions or form opinions about foundation questions.
What you decide does not need to be final. I change angles/fronts all the time based on development (mine and the tree). That's why I like round pots.....
Another great tree added to your already really nice collection.
I would think that a the Robinson workshop would be a perfect experience for furthering your education/training and making your personal taste and skills better. Sometimes learning more about what you don't like makes you do better at what you do like (substitute "prefer" for "like", if your prefer). I'd go, but take a different tree.
I like your tree more in the 1st photo for the reason stated previously. That is now, in its current state. That doesn't mean I'll hold the same opinion after it has been rewired, or after another year or growth, or five years, etc. Many people don't look far enough into the future when they make decisions or form opinions about foundation questions.
What you decide does not need to be final. I change angles/fronts all the time based on development (mine and the tree). That's why I like round pots.....
Another great tree added to your already really nice collection.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
Well, today, I removed all the old wire. Some of it was pretty heavy wire, and imbedded a bit. I'll let it rest a couple weeks before reapplying. I won't have to do the really heavy wire again. Those positions have held. I'm thinking it will be just a lot of "Bjorn style" detail wiring to define pads.
Speaking of Bjorn, it was great meeting him at the Nationals. I teased him that his prices for his trees were too cheap! Ryan's were quite a it more expensive! Lol!!!
We're really lucky these days to have such talented young bonsai masters to guide and inspire us!
Started wiring. I've only done the first couple drop branches on the right:
So, I styled it into two big pads. One in front, and a larger one in the back, a little higher.
I decided that it would look better breaking up the large front pad into more layers:
I still need to tweek the lower front a little...
I like the separation of the front into layers.
But now the back pad presents a problem that we didn't have before: it extends farther out to the right than the front branch does! It's also quite wide. It drops down, and then divides into several secondary branches that splay out. Wide.
This tree, like JWP tend to do if not kept in check, got really leggy at some time in the past. To correct that, it was wired out, so that the interior nodes got exposed to sun, and it backbudded. And they've developed into little branches. It's time to cut back! (Or will be soon. For now, I'm wiring it out.). I want to see what the crown looks like wired before I do anything I can't reverse.
So, I styled it into two big pads. One in front, and a larger one in the back, a little higher.
I decided that it would look better breaking up the large front pad into more layers:
I still need to tweek the lower front a little...
I like the separation of the front into layers.
But now the back pad presents a problem that we didn't have before: it extends farther out to the right than the front branch does! It's also quite wide. It drops down, and then divides into several secondary branches that splay out. Wide.
This tree, like JWP tend to do if not kept in check, got really leggy at some time in the past. To correct that, it was wired out, so that the interior nodes got exposed to sun, and it backbudded. And they've developed into little branches. It's time to cut back! (Or will be soon. For now, I'm wiring it out.). I want to see what the crown looks like wired before I do anything I can't reverse.
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0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
Shouldn't the front pad be larger and the back pad smaller?
At least that is my "perspective"
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At least that is my "perspective"
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Yes agree totally with this. Second front but bring some of the foliage over to interrupt the continuous shari. Very nice tree. I would also like to see a bit more of the structure. I think this would perhaps make it look even older.
