JWP Pick the front!

The Jin helps to hide the graft unions.

I do plan on bringing some foliage around from the back to put in the front to hide the Shari a bit.

Where's Bjorn when you need him? He's good at that! Lol!!!

Speaking of Bjorn, I got this one before he could!
 
The Jin helps to hide the graft unions.

I do plan on bringing some foliage around from the back to put in the front to hide the Shari a bit.

Where's Bjorn when you need him? He's good at that! Lol!!!

Speaking of Bjorn, I got this one before he could!

I wonder how many months it would survive in Houston?

Scott
 
Yeah now that I see them in big pics on my computer, I like the first one better as well now because the angle of that branch bothers me in the second pic and too much shari.
 
To me the first front. On the second, the flow of bleached deadwood with the trunk distracts me somehow. I wish I had this kind of starters.:)
I agree, it's too in your face "as is". I don't like how it goes into the foliage pad on image 2. Most deadwood I see are their own design element and don't get added into a pad of needles, but the needle pads go around the deadwood. Image #1 keeps the deadwood as its own element. Plus, the base looks better in image 1. It's a clear decision for me.

Nice tree! thanks for sharing!
 
Yeah, but what color are the flowers? ;)

Sorry Azaleas are dominating my Bonsai life right now...

Really cool tree! I like the first image best but in 2-d it is hard to tell! It feels stronger and the foliage works better. In the second image it is a little too separated and the growth is going all different directions. Easy to fix obviously with wire, but it is always going to look so separate and less in sync.

Nice when you have more than one option.
 
For me, Japanese white pines = fabulous foliage. So, I'd be thinking about rotating it the other direction - why isn't it worth considering?

... just curious.
 
I like the first pic.. I think, tough call.

I'm curious about the deadwood. It seems to have a lot of tool marks like someone chiseled off the old bark then called it good. Surprising since the rest of the tree has seen a lot of work over many years. Am I just seeing things? Maybe it's just the fresh LS.
Really nice tree, looking forward to seeing it develop with you.
 
Great tree Adair even though I am not a JWP guy. Would love to see yet more angles/options? I like the second pic but it does look a slightly bit unstable, so I would rotate it up as was suggested and definitely find a way to soften the shari with some foliage.
 
Maybe tomorrow I will make a little video turning it around on a turntable.
 
A video would indeed make it more easy... I would consider going between the to pictures. The fork in the dropdown branch is to obvious in the second picture (not that you can hide it). Somehow i like the feeling of the first picture more. But it might be that it is the way the foliage was styled. Hiding a part of the jin might be a good starter. I love this tree!
 
perhaps between first and second, a slight rotation and and a slight angle change when you repot, lifting the trunk up as suggested. Yes, a good bottle of wine, make no hasty decisions, A round might work. I personally am not fond of oval pots in general, but that is my taste, and there are times you must use an oval, though I would consider a rectangle with soft, or inward carved corners.

Interesting tree, and interesting choice of understock. Nice bark.
 
Since you've expressed that you want to make some changes...create the best tree you can...the front will resolve/reveal itself!

I realize this may be controversial, but why worry about the front before a tree is styled??? (I know this tree has a style but Adair has expressed that he would like to fine tune it) Why not...take the material and do the wiring and make the changes...when you are all done decide which direction is your preference and repot to suit when appropriate.

Seems more logical than trying to preselect a front...before things are even placed where you want them...

On a similar note....

Something Kimura said in the recent interview really caught my attention....he mentioned that he can see almost instantly what he wants to do with a piece of material! I don't think many of us look at much of our material and know instantly where it is going! In my own experience, my best results have always come from situations where I had a similar instinct/vision for the outcome of a project.
 
Since you've expressed that you want to make some changes...create the best tree you can...the front will resolve/reveal itself!

I realize this may be controversial, but why worry about the front before a tree is styled??? (I know this tree has a style but Adair has expressed that he would like to fine tune it) Why not...take the material and do the wiring and make the changes...when you are all done decide which direction is your preference and repot to suit when appropriate.

Seems more logical than trying to preselect a front...before things are even placed where you want them...

On a similar note....

Something Kimura said in the recent interview really caught my attention....he mentioned that he can see almost instantly what he wants to do with a piece of material! I don't think many of us look at much of our material and know instantly where it is going! In my own experience, my best results have always come from situations where I had a similar instinct/vision for the outcome of a project.
John,

In actuality, that's exactly what I was going to do! The time for working JWP is about now, so I'm going to be taking the old wire off, let it rest a couple weeks, then wire and style it.

Of course, that involves setting pads, positioning branches, etc., so knowing the front has a bearing. Especially any angle change.

I am somewhat considering using it in the Dan Robinson workshop in Asheville. I haven't decided...

But, you're right, the final design will reveal itself as I work it.

Unfortunately, I don't have Kimura's eye. I saw that interview, too. And I was also struck by that comment.

I bought this tree because of the Shari and Jin. I don't have a lot of trees with deadwood. They're common in California. So, this one I'm planning as a long term keeper, so I'll take my time. I'd rather keep all the Jin for now. You can't put it back on!
 
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