Japanese Maple cuttings [From start to finish: A Guide]

[WIlliam_Butler_Yeets]

lol oh man, i love this thread, i read the whole dang thing (slow afternoon at work)

 

[JetBlackPriest]

That is my point sir. Have you even bothered to look at my post seriously? Did you watch the 5 videos i did over this spring and sunmer trying all the methods as seen online? You have not. There is obviously massive dissinformation on JM cuttings and if you want to learn how to do it wait for the update. If you are here to tell me i am stupid then you are clearly the ignorant one. I can do everything else except find an article online? I can set up this account in this forum but i cant research the internet? I can set up and upload videos on YouTube for months and i dont know how to use the internet? you sound, like most people who are trying to hijack thus thread, like someone who doesnt want people to learn how to propagate this tree from cuttings. You are not offering any solutions you are just shitting on everything. You are a child.

I made an account just to say that you are a fucking clown.

 

[JetBlackPriest]

This was a fun break from the thick tension in this thread

You ARE the tension. Your narcissism knows no bounds lmao.

 

[leatherback]

I made an account just to say that you are a fucking clown.

Please stay for the popcornsessions!

 

[Attmos]

What?

i did 5000 last year
I’m doing the same this year

There is nothing more straightforward.

What you should be saying is that the process is not straightforward to you, and that’s perfectly normal. But it’s weird for somebody who has had no succes with this to say that they are going to produce a resource due to a lack of them... when referring to one of the most well documented and studied ornamental plants in human history

it sounds like you haven’t bothered to google this at all

Wow... 5000 in one season. Are you replanting where trees were cut for lumber, or a fire damage zone... something like that?

 

[Attmos]

That is my point sir. Have you even bothered to look at my post seriously? Did you watch the 5 videos i did over this spring and sunmer trying all the methods as seen online? You have not. There is obviously massive dissinformation on JM cuttings and if you want to learn how to do it wait for the update. If you are here to tell me i am stupid then you are clearly the ignorant one. I can do everything else except find an article online? I can set up this account in this forum but i cant research the internet? I can set up and upload videos on YouTube for months and i dont know how to use the internet? you sound, like most people who are trying to hijack thus thread, like someone who doesnt want people to learn how to propagate this tree from cuttings. You are not offering any solutions you are just shitting on everything. You are a child.

I'm new to this too, but I can tell you that proper soil medium is incredibly important. I bought a bag of Akadama, Pumice, and Lava rock for a baby that had shown next to no growth in Nursery Top Soil, and in a few months it's nearly doubled in size and root growth.

I think, when treating nature unnaturally, you do have to account for the differences. When you grow inside, for example, certain plants won't get the amount of light they need to sustain growth. To counter this difference from nature, we use artificial lighting, and plants obviously respond well.

 

[Attmos]

This is why i made this thread. There has to be a way to make the cuttings grow and thrive. It is possible. I believe so.

There is obviously a certain amount of art involved in propagating plants. "If it were easy... yada yada".
I completely failed at every attempt I made this summer, even with a couple established trees.

I think, is that it's going to take time and unfortunately many failed attempts before you and I have any kind of regular success with this kind of thing. And It is important to understand that not all trees/plants can be propagated with cuttings.

If you've had success with other trees and not this one, obviously that method won't work and you're gonna have to take the time to learn how to work with this particular species.

This summer was incredibly disappointing for me, to the point of wondering if I want to continue... But I will, because one summer is not nearly enough time to become a master, or excellent, great, pretty good, decent, or accomplished in any way.

 

[leatherback]

Why won't this thread just die..

Are you replanting where trees were cut for lumber,

@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

Sorry, lol, I'll let it go.

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

But I was only trying to help.

"for free, you're welcome"

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

I guess appreciating efforts made by others is a problem you two share.

And since I brought it up, there are actually a lot of experienced growers on this site who make absolutely no attempt to encourage newbies. Mostly, and unfortunately, it's a lot of condescension. Even from Bonsai Nut.

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

For example, you won't even acknowledge that I was just talking to you.

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

Bonsai Nut even set it up so we can all see exactly how many comments are made, and how many reactions we get... essentially creating a class system within the site. It's like "MySpace" all over again.
People won't react to what I have to say for the simple fact that my reactions score is abysmal. And My reaction score is low because 90% of the experienced growers here won't give you any kind of reaction, maintaining their status on the site, and mine.

Bonsai Nut won't even try to improve newbies' standing within the community. That Bravura guy was a dick, but this site isn't exactly worth joining unless you're an expert already.

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

To newcomers, it's like trying to engage with the toast of New York's art world.

 

[Attmos]

Why won't this thread just die..


@Canada Bonsai runs a bonsai nursery

You guys already made me not want to visit this site... funny that the one email notification I've had lead me back to this thread....

.......

 

[leatherback]

I guess appreciating efforts made by others is a problem you two share.

Clearly you do not know me, nor what I do.

there are actually a lot of experienced growers on this site who make absolutely no attempt to encourage newbies. Mostly, and unfortunately, it's a lot of condescension. Even from Bonsai Nut.

I have not seen that here. Must be in your mind.

For example, you won't even acknowledge that I was just talking to you.

Where?

People won't react to what I have to say for the simple fact that my reactions score is abysmal.

Or because they do not think your posts are as interesting as you might think?
Right now you just seem to be spamming this thread with dozens of posts that could be one message.

Bonsai Nut won't even try to improve newbies' standing within the community. That Bravura guy was a dick, but this site isn't exactly worth joining unless you're an expert already.

Completely unsure what you mean with "standing within the community".
You sound like a kid expecting the world to owe you something.

 

[Attmos]

Clearly you do not know me, nor what I do.


I have not seen that here. Must be in your mind.


Where?


Or because they do not think your posts are as interesting as you might think?
Right now you just seem to be spamming this thread with dozens of posts that could be one message.


Completely unsure what you mean with "standing within the community".
You sound like a kid expecting the world to owe you something.

Great job of validating pretty much everything I said.

You and I have talked several times. Even on this thread, I appreciated having found your website and all of its instruction despite what that guy said.

And you know exactly what I mean by "standing within the community" whether you agree with it or not.

 

[Attmos]

Clearly you do not know me, nor what I do.


I have not seen that here. Must be in your mind.


Where?


Or because they do not think your posts are as interesting as you might think?
Right now you just seem to be spamming this thread with dozens of posts that could be one message.


Completely unsure what you mean with "standing within the community".
You sound like a kid expecting the world to owe you something.

Essentially, you're blowing me off.

 

[leatherback]

And you know exactly what I mean by "standing within the community" whether you agree with it or not.

Nope I do not. I do not care who writes what. I look at WHAT is written. Not WHO writes it.

Essentially, you're blowing me off.

Nope.
I just do not see anything interesting, relevant or new being written.

 

[Canada Bonsai]

Wow... 5000 in one season. Are you replanting where trees were cut for lumber, or a fire damage zone... something like that?

That message you quoted was written in 2021... 5,000 does not sound like very many to me any more, I now do quite a bit more than that when it comes to Acer palmatum alone

I supply bonsai professionals, nurseries, clubs/societies, and hobbyists across the USA and Canada. To give you a random example, somebody hosting a multi-day workshop with ~15 people/day to create forest or kadudachi compositions could easily order 500-1000 trees (That's 1 order, from 1 professional or nursery in 1 small region of 2 very large countries).

I myself also go through a ton of them because I firmly believe that one way to end up with really good single-trunk trees is to start with 7-10 trees feeding into the nebari. I attached 2 pictures that I took when I was at Scube this spring -- this is a snapshot of a later step in the process, but the same concept can be applied right from the start. To get back to your question -- I myself require +1000 trees per year for starting and maintaining long-term projects. Sure I can use seedlings, but I prefer to use cuttings because I know exactly what i'm dealing with.