Incoming Toyo Nishiki quince

[electronfusion]

@Cadillactaste and @Brian Van Fleet your ideas sound the best if trying to create a showable specimen as soon as possible. But if the rest of those branches were left on for now as sacrifice branches, I imagine they would help thicken those exposed roots faster. I'm just thinking in terms of my very limited experience with flowering quince (including one smaller toyo nishiki), which is 3 years of happy flowering and lots of leaves, but hardly any thickening. It seems like anything you could do to thicken it up now would be helpful to its aesthetic in the long term.

 

[electronfusion]

My Toyo Nishiki. Never considered it for bonsai, planted it about 30 years ago for wildlife. It is 8 to 10 feet tall and and least 15 to 18 feet across. Lots of suckers I will be digging in the late winter.View attachment 277094View attachment 277095

Wow, I wish I had access to one of those to dig up! I bet just under the soil line it's one big raft-shaped trunk.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Four inch pots arrived from Brent today... I guess I imagined the cuttings I got last spring of the white chojubai. These are like starter material almost...For a bonsai tree. Purchased for grafting purposes...red blooming toyo nishiki quince. But WOW...I had initially intended to pot them together...and call it done. Now...I'm not sure if they should be potted separately...or together. Since initially my intentions are to use as grafting material. Basically still is to a degree. But...am just...In awe of what arrived. Of course I can't do anything with them currently. But allow them time in the cold greenhouse.

 

[InstilledChaos]

Home Depot almost always has 'Double Take Scarlet' - a really nice Proven Winners trademarked double flowered vivid scarlet Chaenomeles. It is a medium size, wider than tall but not a dwarf flowering quince. Growth habit like 'Toyo Nishiki' which means it is winter hardy in the ground in Iowa, depending on your local microclimate, might be winter hardy in a pot in Iowa. Flowers of 'Double Take Scarlet' are very similar to 'Iwai Nishiki'.

i would just add a word of caution.Two springs ago I picked up a ‘Double Take Scarlet’ from Home Depot. Upon closer inspection at home it had a nasty case of crown gall, which can spread to other affected species quite easily if it gets into your soil. Always check your trees from the big boxes twice!

 

[Cadillactaste]

Well...this is set in the right direction . Feeling accomplished...now...time and some years under its belt is needed.

 

[Cadillactaste]

There is more movement that meets the eye.

 

[bonhe]

There is more movement that meets the eye.
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Thanks for sharing. Very nice movement there!
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[Cadillactaste]

Thanks for sharing. Very nice movement there!
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Thank you. The movement was just not seen straight on. Maybe I needed to be higher?

 

[bonhe]

Thank you. The movement was just not seen straight on. Maybe I needed to be higher?

You are welcome.
If I were you, I would make 3 upward branches going down to the left to follow the trending.

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[Cadillactaste]

You are welcome.
If I were you, I would make 3 upward branches going down to the left to follow the trending.
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That was kind of you to do a virtual. I can see the direction you see in your head. Thing is...I'm already seeking advice from one artist. I think it's wise to stick with one and finish to fruition. I really liked his direction...and intend to follow through with his guidance. We stop to think about it...we all see something a bit...unique in every piece. Sure we say...a tree speaks to us...offering us this or that. But...the artistic eye...finishes the direction. But...I do appreciate the time you took for the virtual. That was extremely kind of you. It was appreciated...Never doubt that.

 

[bonhe]

That was kind of you to do a virtual. I can see the direction you see in your head. Thing is...I'm already seeking advice from one artist. I think it's wise to stick with one and finish to fruition. I really liked his direction...and intend to follow through with his guidance. We stop to think about it...we all see something a bit...unique in every piece. Sure we say...a tree speaks to us...offering us this or that. But...the artistic eye...finishes the direction. But...I do appreciate the time you took for the virtual. That was extremely kind of you. It was appreciated...Never doubt that.

haha, no problem at all. The reason I gave you my opinion because you asked me
For me, the training of the tree for bonsai is never fixed in one idea, for example, when I have been training black pine and others for years, every year when I had my hands on them, I always saw the new direction to which I should follow. I trained the tree basing on its status at that moment. I like it because it gave me more reward mentally
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[Cadillactaste]

haha, no problem at all. The reason I gave you my opinion because you asked me
For me, the training of the tree for bonsai is never fixed in one idea, for example, when I have been training black pine and others for years, every year when I had my hands on them, I always saw the new direction to which I should follow. I trained the tree basing on its status at that moment. I like it because it gave me more reward mentally
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Understood... I can see one doing that. I have changed directions over the course of heading in one direction as well. But typically...if I get guidance from one. I'm trying to really stay focused on that one person's direction for the time I'm in now...If not I feel like a gerbil spinning my wheel and going no where but confused.

I was more wondering...if I needed the camera level...higher. To show off more of the movement. Yet still at the front of the tree that is so desired for images. I wasn't clear...sorry.

 

[LanceMac10]

haha, no problem at all. The reason I gave you my opinion because you asked me
For me, the training of the tree for bonsai is never fixed in one idea, for example, when I have been training black pine and others for years, every year when I had my hands on them, I always saw the new direction to which I should follow. I trained the tree basing on its status at that moment. I like it because it gave me more reward mentally
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The impermanence of perfection, the perfection of impermanence......at least to me...

 

[Enfield Snapper]

There is more movement that meets the eye.
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This is looking really nice @Cadillactaste. I recently picked up a Toyo Nishiki from a nursery here and a 'Not Minerva' from Evergreen Gardenworks. They both need to grow out a bit (a lot for the Not Minerva) but I like the exposed roots on yours and I'm thinking it's something to consider for mine as well down the road.

 

[Cadillactaste]

This is looking really nice @Cadillactaste. I recently picked up a Toyo Nishiki from a nursery here and a 'Not Minerva' from Evergreen Gardenworks. They both need to grow out a bit (a lot for the Not Minerva) but I like the exposed roots on yours and I'm thinking it's something to consider for mine as well down the road.

Thank you.

Now, as I am an absolute LVER OF NEAGARI/EXPOSES ROOTS. I will forever get behind anyone wishing to go that route with their material!

*My title sort of nailed it... love them.

I've got a few things from Brent...good guy...good material! Congrats on the additions to you.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Out on the bench...a few trees that are from the south and have their cold hours in. Nice overcast...and 50's with nice light rain. Sara Rayner pot.

 

[Cadillactaste]

So nice watching things wake up...

 

[Cadillactaste]

Just an update...

 

[Pitoon]

No flowers this year?

 

[Cadillactaste]

No flowers this year?

No, I kept it in morning sun, per a poor caresheet I found online. Bill V said treat it like a pine and do full sun. So hopeful for next year. Because it's in a prime sun location.