Entire Exquisite Bonsai Collection for Sale

[bonsailosangeles]

Hey OP, how long do I have to wait for the pictures and prices for the conifers I see in the garden pictures. I'm about out of patience. I also asked how you came up with these prices and you no answer that yet. Get with it man!

Hello, thank you for the reminder. Are you referring to the needle Juniper? We only have needle Juniper. After speaking with the owner, comparable to local Bonsai nursery $2100 and $1600. Please let us know if we can help you with the Juniper. I've attached the Juniper.

The needle Junipers are:
Brown pot is 1200 12x16in, 3.5in deep, 34 in tall, the blue potted Juniper is 1000 32 inch tall, 9inx13in, 4.5in deep. The third smaller Juniper is 400 9x12in, 4 in deep, 30 in tall. All measured from bottom of the pot to top of the tree.


Negotiable.

Once more - we do not ship these out. These are for local pickup only in West Los Angeles, California.

 

[namnhi]

One of the many reasons I hesitate to sell trees online. Too many inquiries...
Those needle junipers look pretty bad for the price though.

 

[bonsailosangeles]

One of the many reasons I hesitate to sell trees online. Too many inquiries...
Those needle junipers look pretty bad for the price though.

Welcome to the Internet. We are looking for serious buyers. We are willing to negotiate.

 

[19Mateo83]

Whose website or logo got edited out here?

 

[bonsailosangeles]

Whose website or logo got edited out here?
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No website or logo as none of the other photos have this. This was edited out per the request of the owner as there was a privacy concern. I appreciate any interested buyers to start a conversation. Thanks for your understanding.

 

[Tentakelaertje]

Once more - all prices are negotiable and we are looking for serious buyers. We only started selling these trees recently and we are using the resources we have to get this accomplished. Thank you for your understanding.

Once more - you smell of scam bro, from all sides. Serious buyers are not what you're gonna find doing "business" like this. Even though what you're doing here might be legit, you're not giving us a lot of reasons to believe it. On the contrary. So get on with it, because in niches as community oriented as this one, trust and goodwill are your strongest weapons.
Anyhow, since they probably don't teach reading comprehension at what I can only assume is Greendale Community College, here's another free tip: using phrases like "using the resources we have to get [business goal] accomplished" only makes you sound smart to those who are dumber than yourself. And they are always fewer than you think.

 

[Mikecheck123]

The bonsai world unfortunately does have a strangely scammy underbelly that preys on beginners or people looking to start.

Which is why it's weird that this is posted here.

OP, you'll have better luck on Craigslist or Nextdoor, where you'll be more likely to find a mark.

 

[pandacular]

This thread is unnecessarily mean imo. If you're not interested in the trees offered, just leave. The OP shouldn't be crucified for not knowing a ton about bonsai, and I really haven't seen anything that leads me to believe they're being dishonest.

 

[bonsaiwood]

DM’d the OP over the weekend specifically asking them about maple availability. Received a response confirming they do not have maples available- only Jade, Boxwood, Elm and Bougainvillea.

 

[bonsailosangeles]

DM’d the OP over the weekend specifically asking them about maple availability. Received a response confirming they do not have maples available- only Jade, Boxwood, Elm and Bougainvillea.

We also have needle Juniper as noted several times throughout the thread, though, the entire collection has yet to be inventoried and the owner needs to continue working on this, I'll update everyone here as we continue. Thank you!

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Unfortunate the lack of tact taken from the experienced parties here. There are some scam warning flags however, maybe people can offer advice on how the OP can prove this is not a scam, instead of insisting it is one.

I'm surprised at the species mix, honestly. A 40yr collection should have some maples in it. No tridents or pines? Can the seller explain their reason for the species they've curated?

 

[vp999]

OP doesn't ship or asking for deposit first...It's pick up only so what is he scamming for? You come and look at the trees and if you like you buy...What am I missing here?
And....Some of the trees are also listed on Ebay which you can purchase and pay for with PayPal which offers 100% buyer's protection..of he he doesn't ship the trees you would get your money back. I know there's a lot of scammers out there but almost all of them are asking you to pay for the tree first before shipping them out. OP's prices seems high but thats actually the OPPOSITE of what scammers would normally do to get you to bite.

 

[Mikecheck123]

OP doesn't ship or asking for deposit first...It's pick up only so what is he scamming for? You come and look at the trees and if you like you buy...What am I missing here?
And....Some of the trees are also listed on Ebay which you can purchase and pay for with PayPal which offers 100% buyer's protection..of he he doesn't ship the trees you would get your money back. I know there's a lot of scammers out there but almost all of them are asking you to pay for the tree first before shipping them out. OP's prices seems high but thats actually the OPPOSITE of what scammers would normally do to get you to bite.

I might have more sympathy if I hadn't already seen the same scam one BILLION times.

Look at all the high-pressure language they put into the post. Literally every single tree is listed as a "MUST HAVE"!!!!!!!!!!! Go look for yourself.

Do you know who that pressure is aimed at? Yes, the unwary. The beginners. That's who their mark is. No bonsai pro is biting at a "MUST HAVE" ebay link.

It's that sort of targeted manipulation that makes OP deserve all the scorn they're getting here.

OP, go pound sand.

 

[bonsaiwood]

Unfortunate the lack of tact taken from the experienced parties here. There are some scam warning flags however, maybe people can offer advice on how the OP can prove this is not a scam, instead of insisting it is one.

I'm surprised at the species mix, honestly. A 40yr collection should have some maples in it. No tridents or pines? Can the seller explain their reason for the species they've curated?

Is it possible some of the more well known, and sought after species of trees were once part of the OP’s collection and perhaps already sold off to other parties? I mean, 40 years is a long time, I would guess plenty of trees in any collection come and go over a long period of time, and maybe what we’re seeing are the less desireable trees of a once larger collection. Speculating here, just my opinion.

 

[rockm]

Unfortunate the lack of tact taken from the experienced parties here. There are some scam warning flags however, maybe people can offer advice on how the OP can prove this is not a scam, instead of insisting it is one.

I'm surprised at the species mix, honestly. A 40yr collection should have some maples in it. No tridents or pines? Can the seller explain their reason for the species they've curated?

My collection is going on 35 years old. I don't have any pines. I have species that I like, elm, maple, oak, BC. The seller seems to like needle junipers and boxwood (although there are other species in there as well from the photos). Using "high pressure" language is neither here nor there, really. The seller seems to have a background on selling on ebay, etc. That language is pretty common there.

I tend to come down on the side of this isn't a scam, as much as it is someone who isn't knowledgeable about bonsai or the bonsai market. That they have invited buyers to come in person and see the trees doesn't smell like a scam--although I would first ask the seller to meet in a public place before heading anywhere with cash--which is true of any online transaction that moves to in-person meetings. Also the photos aren't the standard stolen images used in a lot of bogus sales. They're of an established bonsai collection in someone's yard. None of the images I've reversed searched come up anywhere.

All in all, this seller would probably do better getting in contact with a local club to sell the trees. Less hassle all around.

 

[Mikecheck123]

I have no doubt that if you forked over $500 that you would definitely become the proud owner of that dead rosemary.

So I don't use "scam" to mean someone stealing money, but rather to mean big a rip off.

 

[rockm]

I have no doubt that if you forked over $500 that you would definitely become the proud owner of that dead rosemary.

So I don't use "scam" to mean someone stealing money, but rather to mean big a rip off.

The rosemary was amended to "ornamental," if I remember. There is a market for such things. A search on Artificial bonsai can bring up stuff like that that is sometimes priced in the thousands. Not saying that rosemary is worth that to someone who knows bonsai, but given the number of artificial trees out there, someone may be interested --prices are negotiable from the seller. Rip offs are relative in some instances...

 

[Orion_metalhead]

How rot resistant is rosemary?

 

[Bonsai Nut]

How rot resistant is rosemary?

It isn't a tree, so "not very". For all intents and purposes it is a desert plant. You can grow them natively in SoCal landscape without irrigation (once established) so they are a plant that can go 6+ months without water. There was a big rosemary "weed" in Laguna Beach that I had my eye on for years.

As far as some of the other general questions, it is difficult, if not impossible, to keep maples in SoCal with the lack of a winter, bad alkaline water, and hot winds off the desert that will defoliate a maple in 2-3 days. I tried, for years, and at best could only get a few trees to "survive" with extensive protection and acid fertilizer. Most people recommended that you can only keep them if you have softened water to irrigate them with... which I didn't have access to.

Also, there are a lot of various different Asian communities in SoCal. When I would go to some of the Vietnamese bonsai shows, they would have a different design vibe, than say, some of the old Japanese clubs. I know for a fact that some of the big Vietnamese enthusiasts either worked in landscape or knew someone who did, so some of the big trees were trees you would find in landscape - hedges etc that people wanted ripped out. Boxwoods, junipers, etc. You could remove a single boxwood hedge and have enough material for a dozen bonsai (or more). Not saying that is the case here, but if people haven't lived in southern California they don't have an appreciation for all of the different ethnic communities.

If anyone is interested, they just need to set up an appointment to see the trees in person. I'm not sure how that could be a scam...

 

[Orion_metalhead]

That makes a lot of sense related to the species issue. Thanks.