jeremy_norbury
Omono
Americans resisting all advice. How American of you.
Donald Trump.
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jeremy_norbury
Omono
I thought this was an open discussion, why are you trying to shut me down? Is that how you normally try to deal with "people like me"? Tell me it's none of my business?
Again, another person doing the WhatAboutism - try to deflect discussion about your own country's politics by pointing at a country I don't live in and that I will happily watch fail.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Maybe interesting to do.. Have a look at this voting-test. Although I am naturally not voting, I tried and.. Jill / Clinton are my top alignments. Which are yours?
https://www.isidewith.com/
https://www.isidewith.com/
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
No not all...just like one uses wisdom on a forum in regards to bonsai. You learn to not take everything at face value...and you learn who quickly has solid advice that can better ones tree. Same goes here. I find you very amusing though...so I hope you continue your posts. If nothing else...to make time go a little quicker.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Well now...look what shipped to book stores...I just puked a little bit. Irony would be if these on November 9th won't be worth a hill of beans. I wouldn't have any trouble starting a fire to heat my home though...so not a total waist.
Maloghurst
Chumono
Do me!
Maloghurst
Chumono
I say let the man speak! He's only saying what a lot of democratic bnuts are not saying!
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Avoidance of accountability is key to being a socialist.
Example; Obama.
watchndsky
Chumono
@just.wing.it - isnt this in your neck of the woods? i'm shocked to see something other than the typical gun control approach being used. have any opinions or feedback on this?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ublic-health-measures-mdash-and-saving-lives/
In Baltimore, violence has become a near-daily occurrence. In 2015, for example, this city of more than 620,000 people saw 344 homicides. But by tackling violence as a public health issue, Baltimore is forging a new model for how to keep citizens safe.
In 2007 the city launched its Safe Streets program, modeled after the Cure Violence program in Chicago. Targeting high-risk youth, Safe Streets hires “violence interrupters” to mediate conflict before it has the chance to escalate into violence. These interrupters have often been incarcerated themselves in the past, which brings credibility and experience to their work on the streets.
In 2014 Safe Streets workers had 15,000 encounters with the public and mediated 880 conflicts, more than 80 percent of which were deemed to be likely or very likely to result in gun violence. Three of four program sites saw significant reductions in gun violence; homicides dropped by 56 percent in one neighborhood and by 26 percent in another. Surveys show that people in the program were significantly less likely to find it acceptable to use a gun to settle a conflict, compared with peers in other neighborhoods that did not have the program.
This year Safe Streets will expand to several Baltimore hospitals, where interrupters will help victims of violence—who are themselves often participants in dangerous conflicts—address the trauma they have experienced and navigate reentry into their communities. Although studies to date are small, evidence suggests that people enrolled in this kind of program are three times less likely to be arrested for a violent crime in the future.
But Baltimore's efforts go even further by dealing with factors that contribute to conflict—starting with one of its greatest contributors: addiction. More than 80 percent of individuals in jails have used illegal substances, and more than 30 percent were under the influence of drugs at the time of their offense.
Over the past year Baltimore has led one of the most aggressive opioid overdose prevention campaigns in the country. In October 2015 the Baltimore City Health Department declared overdose to be a public health emergency and issued a blanket prescription for naloxone—the lifesaving drug that reverses the lethal effects of opioids—for every one of the city's residents. The health department trained more than 8,000 people to use naloxone in 2015—in jails, public housing, bus shelters, street corners and markets.
The focus on preventing overdose is combined with a citywide commitment to better access to quality, on-demand drug treatment services and long-term recovery support. Recovery requires medication-assisted treatment, psychological support and wraparound services, which get teachers, clergy and other community members involved in supporting drug abusers. The health department has started a 24/7 hotline that connects people to mental health and substance abuse treatment. It has also launched a public education campaign, “Don't Die,” to educate citizens about overdose.
But intervening on the front end does not stop at addiction; the roots of violence often begin much earlier, in inequalities that have been present from early childhood and even birth. A decade ago the city's infant health ranked among the poorest in the country, with enormous disparities between black and white birth outcomes. In response, the health department led the creation of an evidence-based initiative, B'More for Healthy Babies, that offers extensive support services to mothers and that sends nurses and counselors on home visits to low-income families. The results have been extraordinary: within seven years infant mortality decreased by 28 percent to its lowest in Baltimore's history, the teen birth rate decreased by 36 percent, and the disparity between black and white infant deaths decreased by almost 40 percent.
Violence does not happen randomly or in isolation. It is one tragic, final result of inequities that continually build if left unaddressed. By treating it as a public health issue, it can be prevented—and, perhaps one day, even cured.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ublic-health-measures-mdash-and-saving-lives/
In Baltimore, violence has become a near-daily occurrence. In 2015, for example, this city of more than 620,000 people saw 344 homicides. But by tackling violence as a public health issue, Baltimore is forging a new model for how to keep citizens safe.
In 2007 the city launched its Safe Streets program, modeled after the Cure Violence program in Chicago. Targeting high-risk youth, Safe Streets hires “violence interrupters” to mediate conflict before it has the chance to escalate into violence. These interrupters have often been incarcerated themselves in the past, which brings credibility and experience to their work on the streets.
In 2014 Safe Streets workers had 15,000 encounters with the public and mediated 880 conflicts, more than 80 percent of which were deemed to be likely or very likely to result in gun violence. Three of four program sites saw significant reductions in gun violence; homicides dropped by 56 percent in one neighborhood and by 26 percent in another. Surveys show that people in the program were significantly less likely to find it acceptable to use a gun to settle a conflict, compared with peers in other neighborhoods that did not have the program.
This year Safe Streets will expand to several Baltimore hospitals, where interrupters will help victims of violence—who are themselves often participants in dangerous conflicts—address the trauma they have experienced and navigate reentry into their communities. Although studies to date are small, evidence suggests that people enrolled in this kind of program are three times less likely to be arrested for a violent crime in the future.
But Baltimore's efforts go even further by dealing with factors that contribute to conflict—starting with one of its greatest contributors: addiction. More than 80 percent of individuals in jails have used illegal substances, and more than 30 percent were under the influence of drugs at the time of their offense.
Over the past year Baltimore has led one of the most aggressive opioid overdose prevention campaigns in the country. In October 2015 the Baltimore City Health Department declared overdose to be a public health emergency and issued a blanket prescription for naloxone—the lifesaving drug that reverses the lethal effects of opioids—for every one of the city's residents. The health department trained more than 8,000 people to use naloxone in 2015—in jails, public housing, bus shelters, street corners and markets.
The focus on preventing overdose is combined with a citywide commitment to better access to quality, on-demand drug treatment services and long-term recovery support. Recovery requires medication-assisted treatment, psychological support and wraparound services, which get teachers, clergy and other community members involved in supporting drug abusers. The health department has started a 24/7 hotline that connects people to mental health and substance abuse treatment. It has also launched a public education campaign, “Don't Die,” to educate citizens about overdose.
But intervening on the front end does not stop at addiction; the roots of violence often begin much earlier, in inequalities that have been present from early childhood and even birth. A decade ago the city's infant health ranked among the poorest in the country, with enormous disparities between black and white birth outcomes. In response, the health department led the creation of an evidence-based initiative, B'More for Healthy Babies, that offers extensive support services to mothers and that sends nurses and counselors on home visits to low-income families. The results have been extraordinary: within seven years infant mortality decreased by 28 percent to its lowest in Baltimore's history, the teen birth rate decreased by 36 percent, and the disparity between black and white infant deaths decreased by almost 40 percent.
Violence does not happen randomly or in isolation. It is one tragic, final result of inequities that continually build if left unaddressed. By treating it as a public health issue, it can be prevented—and, perhaps one day, even cured.
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
I think it's BS.
It's funny that the modeled their plan after one they did in Chicago, as Chicago just broke 600 murders this year, so I'm sure it's working.
It's funny that the modeled their plan after one they did in Chicago, as Chicago just broke 600 murders this year, so I'm sure it's working.
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Just the same drivel about inequality....
That's the lefty's excuse for Islamic terrorism too, the say that there aren't any job opportunities for the young jihadists.
That's the lefty's excuse for Islamic terrorism too, the say that there aren't any job opportunities for the young jihadists.
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
The crime and shooting, and murder is all on the rise right now, because since about January 20, 2009, Hussain Obama has done nothing but spew hateful rhetoric towards police.
Police are quitting in mass, and the ones that aren't have their hands are tied by Obama's DOJ.
This is all part of the Progressive's plan to disrupt the social order in America, to the point that they can declare Marshall Law and really take shit over.
Police are quitting in mass, and the ones that aren't have their hands are tied by Obama's DOJ.
This is all part of the Progressive's plan to disrupt the social order in America, to the point that they can declare Marshall Law and really take shit over.
watchndsky
Chumono
yeh that immediately drew skepticism on my part, but i was surprised to see the approach in such a blue state. if its an apologetic excuse for poor choices then it would make a little more sense then. kind of like this - armed robber is killed and the family attacks the employee for a justified defensive gun use.
What happens when a former Pizza Hut employee in Charlotte, NC returns to the store with two buddies to rob it and is shot DRT (dead right there)? Do the misguided youth’s parents blame their son for committing an armed robbery or themselves for their failed parenting? Of course not! They blame the good guy with a gun defended himself and others in the store. WBTV has the story:
Charlotte, NC (WBTV) –It’s been a difficult week for parents Temia Hairston and Michael Grace Sr. (above). Their son, Michael Grace Jr (below), was shot and killed during an attempted robbery early Sunday morning. . .
Hairston said she learned of her son’s death on social media, and only got confirmation from police after contacting them first. The grieving mother said she has been left with dozens of questions about the situation that have thus far gone unanswered.
“If there was to be a death, it was not the place of the employee at Pizza Hut. That is the place of law enforcement,” said Hairston . . .
Hairston and Grace Sr acknowledged that their son was breaking the law by robbing the business, and said they definitely don’t condone what he did.
“It was an act of desperation, but I do not believe that Michael would have hurt anyone,” said Hairston . . .
They said Grace Jr had fallen on hard times and resorted to crime to provide for his own child.
So the armed stick-up man was the real victim. It almost sounds as if she knew her boy had turned to criminal endeavors for his income. If so, instead of reporting him, she swept it under the rug.
They also said their son used to work at the same Pizza Hut restaurant where the robbery happened. They maintain he never would have physically hurt anyone during the robbery.
In all likelihood, Grace Jr. thought the restaurant would be a place he could rob without opposition, given Pizza Hut’s no-guns-at-work policy. But Grace Jr. thought wrong; an employee put defending his life above a misguided corporate policy. And in doing so, the good guy with a gun may have saved his own life and those of his fellow employees.
“Why in the hell did this guy have a gun?” questioned Hairston about the employee who shot her son.
The employee had a gun because there are violent thugs out there (like Ms. Hairston’s son) who possess neither impulse control nor decency.
She said her son was shot in the head, and she thinks the shooting may have even been personal, citing past conflicts Grace Jr had had with other employees at the restaurant.
So threatening to kill people if they don’t surrender their money isn’t “personal”? Was that just business? No matter how you look at it, if Grace Jr. hadn’t threatened others with a gun, demanding that which wasn’t his, he’d still be alive today.
“This wasn’t a body shot. This was a head shot. My son was shot in the left side of his head just behind his ear. A headshot is personal,” said Hairston.
No, Ms. Hairston, a headshot isn’t personal. It’s final.
Even though their son was in the process of committing a crime, the family thinks his death was undeserved and unjustified.
“Even a criminal has a right to a degree,” said Grace Sr. “I’m not advocating what my son did.”
Someone’s been drinking from the entitlement well a little too long. The only thing her son would have been entitled to — if he’d survived — was a trial by a jury of his peers.
The family said they want Pizza Hut to release more information about the situation and acknowledge that their son used to be a Pizza Hut employee . . .
Hairston said she thinks the employee who shot her son needs to be in jail, and wants all parties involved in the situation to be honest about what happened.
Until Temia Hairston and Michael Grace Sr. can face the truth of what their son did, they’ll never find the honesty they supposedly seek. As poet David Whyte put it, “honesty is grounded in humility and indeed in humiliation, and in admitting exactly where we are powerless.”
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
I've heard insane stories like that before...
The thing in Baltimore.... Treating it like a health issue....it's a way of accepting the violence, imo....
Instead of speaking about the lack of parenting, they do this....
If it works a bit, hey, it works, that's good.
But it's not addressing the root of the problem.
Maloghurst
Chumono
Bull crap, it's the compassion, empathy and common sense that keeps most dems on this site from responding.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
You'd never be the same.
ianb
Shohin
Well, I think as Churchill once said - "You can always rely on America to do the right thing....once they've tried everything else"
fredman
Masterpiece
He also says in his book that he swam the mighty Apies river. I grew up playing in it. Its nothing but a stream that flows from a fountain....
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
ISIS is a creation of the American Government.....
I've had 37 people pinch me.....
But alas......
This ShIt is REALLY happening.
Brace yourselves!
We are beyond screwed!
I'm going to prison.....just to be a part or something!
Slave Nigga!
Sorce
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
True.
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