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Just moved house, a harrowing experience for all plants involved but these guys did swimmingly in their colanders and pumice grow beds. They are in maybe 30-40% akadama and the rest pumice with a dash of kiryuzuna. I may be overdoing it with the fertilizer but these guys have shown no pain—pines I got from Curtis some many months ago. Are these doing about as expected, better than, or worse than they should be at this rate?

Most I’m letting grow freely, 3 or 4 I cut off the central leader to see what would happen.

the cooler early morning light pictures are more accurate color, the yellow ones are mid afternoon on a very warm day

Tallest a little over a foot

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Congrats on the move. Moving is never easy, looks like the JBP are doing great. Is the stuff on top of the soil all bio-gold slow release fertilizer? From what I understand excess fertilizer alters the soil by creating too high of a salt concentration, and this can hurt beneficial soil microorganisms that pines need. You may be wasting some slow release fertilizer, or I need to up my fert game. :) Just looking out for you.
 
Just moved house, a harrowing experience for all plants involved but these guys did swimmingly in their colanders and pumice grow beds. They are in maybe 30-40% akadama and the rest pumice with a dash of kiryuzuna. I may be overdoing it with the fertilizer but these guys have shown no pain—pines I got from Curtis some many months ago. Are these doing about as expected, better than, or worse than they should be at this rate?

Most I’m letting grow freely, 3 or 4 I cut off the central leader to see what would happen.

the cooler early morning light pictures are more accurate color, the yellow ones are mid afternoon on a very warm day

Tallest a little over a foot

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Wow nice……more sun is best
 
I am thinking Japanese Red Pine Seedlings……Seedlings are in many many respects admirable as seedling cuttins…..
i will add some red pines to my black pines that i got from you, if you start producing them!
 
Has anyone tried making expose root (neagari) black pines using Curtis' seedlings? The handful I got are so amazingly vigorous that I wonder if the crazy strong roots would make it hard to start! Would love to see some examples of works in progress though.
 
Has anyone tried making expose root (neagari) black pines using Curtis' seedlings? The handful I got are so amazingly vigorous that I wonder if the crazy strong roots would make it hard to start! Would love to see some examples of works in progress though.

I have six of Curtis' seedlings from Spring of 2021. Five out of six have some form of very minor neagari, entirely by accident. I'm not saying any of these neagari look good, I'm just saying that they developed some form of neagari, or at least the start of what could someday become neagari :). For reference, I've also included a photo of the one that doesn't have any neagari, at least not visible above the soil surface.

My hypothesis for how the neagari developed is that I have these growing in 100% pumice, which is a bit on the dry side, especially for a climate like Utah. So, I've found that they tend to send their roots straight down to moisture, and often out the bottom of their pots into the ground. Then, when I repot, I probably pot them a bit higher than the previous year, which exposes some roots. Neagari wasn't my goal for these, and for some, I want to get a wider spread of roots in coming years.

Each photo below is of a different tree.
 

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I have six of Curtis' seedlings from Spring of 2021. Five out of six have some form of very minor neagari, entirely by accident. I'm not saying any of these neagari look good, I'm just saying that they developed some form of neagari, or at least the start of what could someday become neagari :). For reference, I've also included a photo of the one that doesn't have any neagari, at least not visible above the soil surface.

My hypothesis for how the neagari developed is that I have these growing in 100% pumice, which is a bit on the dry side, especially for a climate like Utah. So, I've found that they tend to send their roots straight down to moisture, and often out the bottom of their pots into the ground. Then, when I repot, I probably pot them a bit higher than the previous year, which exposes some roots. Neagari wasn't my goal for these, and for some, I want to get a wider spread of roots in coming years.

Each photo below is of a different tree.
Nice development! I would take a couple and see if you can continue the growth... I have a Mark Comstock that is a ROR in development for over two years and I am looking forward to potting it up next spring.
 
Has anyone tried making expose root (neagari) black pines using Curtis' seedlings? The handful I got are so amazingly vigorous that I wonder if the crazy strong roots would make it hard to start! Would love to see some examples of works in progress though.
I removed the Grodan block from one of the trees I received this year and there were quite a few circling roots that could have been used for an exposed roots design.
 
I have six of Curtis' seedlings from Spring of 2021. Five out of six have some form of very minor neagari, entirely by accident. I'm not saying any of these neagari look good, I'm just saying that they developed some form of neagari, or at least the start of what could someday become neagari :). For reference, I've also included a photo of the one that doesn't have any neagari, at least not visible above the soil surface.

My hypothesis for how the neagari developed is that I have these growing in 100% pumice, which is a bit on the dry side, especially for a climate like Utah. So, I've found that they tend to send their roots straight down to moisture, and often out the bottom of their pots into the ground. Then, when I repot, I probably pot them a bit higher than the previous year, which exposes some roots. Neagari wasn't my goal for these, and for some, I want to get a wider spread of roots in coming years.

Each photo below is of a different tree.
Thanks for sharing these.

I have to wait till’ December to start these or I will make the same mistake as last year………starting way too early.

This is the year for sure……….all started same time for exacting environment of all the trees……..same moisture evaporation of all trees is very important in my setup……..GREATLY increasing quality.I will do a few trays of Red Pine too!!
 
That’s awesome Curtis I’m going to be hyped for the red pines, I’ve tried finding some online and never really had any luck before and I’m curious is pinus densiflora and pinus densiflora umbrella the same tree or is it a mutated nursery variety?
 
IMG_9832.jpegIMG_9779.jpegsoaking the red and black japanese pine seeds…..then a month of stratification and start germination in 1 st week of Dec.

Make sure not to start too early like I did by accident last season.

ALL PINES FOR NOW ON….Yay

A winter co2 crop of cuttings and a summer outdoor crop of seedlings!! (Photos above⬆️)
 
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