BC experience from @cajunrider

[Dmvbonsai]

@Dmvbonsai ain't about to tell you hahaha.
BTW unless you want to develop extreme sumo BC bonsai, making that bonsai 24" will be tough.

 

[CrippyFreaky24]

It is, I have another one from him that is the same size. Just angled differently. He blessed me! And I paid a pretty penny lol. But still a great price point (to me). I don’t want to discuss his prices on a public forum out of respect. But Here’s the other one for some trunk porn lol

And edited to add the two together.

I was honestly amazed by his prices. They’re very fair and made me realize along with me looking at Andy smiths site that almost every website selling these trees is completely overpricing them.

 

[CrippyFreaky24]

@Dmvbonsai ain't about to tell you hahaha.
BTW unless you want to develop extreme sumo BC bonsai, making that bonsai 24" will be tough.

You should sell hulk to dm… The shippers would have fun with that one for sure.

 

[Cajunrider]

You should sell hulk to dm… The shippers would have fun with that one for sure.

Hulk ran away with @namnhi when he showed up at my house with his Lexus. Hulk couldn't resist that cushy ride.
That's all good. I still have Franco and Batman.

 

[Dmvbonsai]

You should sell hulk to dm… The shippers would have fun with that one for sure.

Don’t tell me there’s another monster or 3 over there lol @Cajunrider

 

[Cajunrider]

Don’t tell me there’s another monster or 3 over there lol @Cajunrider

There is Franco with a 10" trunk and Batman which is twice as large as Franco.
Here is a scary thought, there are a couple trees with 24+" trunk that my friend asked me if I want to use his track hoe to pull up the tree. The thought of having a 6ft diameter pot is a bit too much for me.

 

[Dmvbonsai]

There is Franco with a 10" trunk and Batman which is twice as large as Franco.
Here is a scary thought, there are a couple trees with 24+" trunk that my friend asked me if I want to use his track hoe to pull up the tree. The thought of having a 6ft diameter pot is a bit too much for me.

Ooo post Batman. I’m out of the loop lol. And I agree. That would dominate my yard

 

[Cajunrider]

Ooo post Batman. I’m out of the loop lol. And I agree. That would dominate my yard

Cjr Batman BC

Collected from the bank of an over a century old pond. Tree is not that old though. Pulling the stump Path to bat cave Had to refuel Happy collector Chainsaw chop In the biggest cement tub I could find Batman has a knee

www.bonsainut.com

 

[CrippyFreaky24]

There is Franco with a 10" trunk and Batman which is twice as large as Franco.
Here is a scary thought, there are a couple trees with 24+" trunk that my friend asked me if I want to use his track hoe to pull up the tree. The thought of having a 6ft diameter pot is a bit too much for me.

I believe There’s a point where one is just harvesting a full size tree and making it a smaller tree, and it’s no longer bonsa, I think that may reach that point.

 

[Cajunrider]

I believe There’s a point where one is just harvesting a full size tree and making it a smaller tree, and it’s no longer bonsa, I think that may reach that point.

If you go to Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, you will find bonsai that have to be moved by cranes. They are still bonsai because they are meticulously developed to a certain style. Some are so costly that people often just rent them to display in their house for special occasions.
It's not uncommon for people to spend $5000 to rent a huge Ochna intergerrima for display in their house for a month during the Asian New Year time.

 

[flor1]

I was honestly amazed by his prices. They’re very fair and made me realize along with me looking at Andy smiths site that almost every website selling these trees is completely overpricing them.

You can’t compare pricing between Andy’s tree and Cajunrider completely different trees and growth patterns.
like comparing apples and oranges

 

[rockm]

I was honestly amazed by his prices. They’re very fair and made me realize along with me looking at Andy smiths site that almost every website selling these trees is completely overpricing them.

This can be a very limiting and potentially expensive way to look at things. BIG BC are not rare. BIG BC with some decent trunk buttressing and excellent taper in the trunk are. Size is relative, as well. Some smaller BC have excellent taper and roots. Some big ones are telephone poles with leaves.

This BC I got from Zach Smith a long time ago (which was winter killed a few years ago in a later freeze) was only two feet tall, but tapered from a six inch root crown to about two in that space. Medium sized trunk, but more valuable than one twice its size proportionally. With BC it is all about proportions.

 

[CrippyFreaky24]

You can’t compare pricing between Andy’s tree and Cajunrider completely different trees and growth patterns.
like comparing apples and oranges

I was just saying how their lower prices make the other sites look very overpriced.

 

[Dmvbonsai]

Cjr Batman BC

Collected from the bank of an over a century old pond. Tree is not that old though. Pulling the stump Path to bat cave Had to refuel Happy collector Chainsaw chop In the biggest cement tub I could find Batman has a knee

www.bonsainut.com

Beautiful!

 

[CrippyFreaky24]

This can be a very limiting and potentially expensive way to look at things. BIG BC are not rare. BIG BC with some decent trunk buttressing and excellent taper in the trunk are. Size is relative, as well. Some smaller BC have excellent taper and roots. Some big ones are telephone poles with leaves.

This BC I got from Zach Smith a long time ago (which was winter killed a few years ago in a later freeze) was only two feet tall, but tapered from a six inch root crown to about two in that space. Medium sized trunk, but more valuable than one twice its size proportionally. With BC it is all about proportions.

I could not find bc online, even ones without any character, being below hundreds of dollars. If you go on the right website, like underhill you can get things at good prices because they have character. But I’ve seen large sticks in pots being charged for upwards of $300. I may be just bad at looking but I looked for a while until I decided to try to buy bald cypress another way.

 

[Cajunrider]

I could not find bc online, even ones without any character, being below hundreds of dollars. If you go on the right website, like underhill you can get things at good prices because they have character. But I’ve seen large sticks in pots being charged for upwards of $300. I may be just bad at looking but I looked for a while until I decided to try to buy bald cypress another way.

I believe Under Hill, Bonsai South, etc. have excellent BCs at very good prices. I have no intention to compete with the commercial bonsai suppliers. I am a hobbyist with a few extra BCs to share with my Bonsai Nut buddies. Soon I won’t be selling any.

 

[19Mateo83]

I could not find bc online, even ones without any character, being below hundreds of dollars. If you go on the right website, like underhill you can get things at good prices because they have character. But I’ve seen large sticks in pots being charged for upwards of $300. I may be just bad at looking but I looked for a while until I decided to try to buy bald cypress another way.

Lowes gets them every year, they are about 1-1.5 inch trunks and run $30-$40. I potted one and keep it on my deck because why not.

 

[Cajunrider]

Lowes gets them every year, they are about 1-1.5 inch trunks and run $30-$40. I potted one and keep it on my deck because why not.
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This is why I tell people looking for small BC to go to Lowes , HD or other chain. They aren’t any different than those I see in swamp. Starting at 2” I begin to see differentiation. The trunk of swamp BC begin to show ridges that become flutes later. The ones on land that I see in the yards and parks all around me can grow 30 ft tall with 12+” in diameter without the flutes.

 

[19Mateo83]

This is why I tell people looking for small BC to go to Lowes , HD or other chain. They aren’t any different than those I see in swamp. Starting at 2” I begin to see differentiation. The trunk of swamp BC begin to show ridges that become flutes later. The ones on land that I see in the yards and parks all around me can grow 30 ft tall with 12+” in diameter without the flutes.

If you plant them in a swamp tub that’s shallow but really wide the lowes ones should eventually grow flutes. I want to try an experiment next spring where I chop a lowes one and basically do the washer method but to a 1” trunk. Maybe it will help speed up the buttressing or atleast the basal flare. Either way it will be educational.

 

[Cajunrider]

If you plant them in a swamp tub that’s shallow but really wide the lowes ones should eventually grow flutes. I want to try an experiment next spring where I chop a lowes one and basically do the washer method but to a 1” trunk. Maybe it will help speed up the buttressing or atleast the basal flare. Either way it will be educational.

I believe they will. In unstable and soft soil, the tree will spread out its roots for stability. Associated with each big root is a flute that runs up the tree. There is nothing magical about the swamp other than the soggy mud that the tree has to fight to remain upright.