Toyo Nishiki Survivor

[RobertB]

thank you for this. Will be trying this either soon or in the spring.

Is fall your favorite time to graft? How later have you done the grafting in the fall?

 

[thumblessprimate1]

thank you for this. Will be trying this either soon or in the spring.

Is fall your favorite time to graft? How later have you done the grafting in the fall?

You could graft in the winter if you have a nice humid greenhouse. So far, I like fall and late summer grafting for flowering quince. I've only started grafting so my opinion shouldn't carry too much weight. This year, since I grafted early, I think I'll leave my quince outside in the cold as I normally would. If it gets cold to a point below freezing that makes me nervous, I'll bring it inside an area that will give it more protection. I am trying out different things with hope to find a good rhythm.

Update: it's easier to count the grafts without leaves; only 2. So I have 12 of 14 grafts with leaves or sprouts right now. Two of those are sprouting, and two with extensions 8 to 12 inches. Most only have leaves.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

The pot is here! ? It's going from one Chinese pot to another ?

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

The pot looks antique. Nice

 

[thumblessprimate1]

The pot looks antique. Nice

Good eye, sir! I can't wait to get the tree repotted. Prepping the soil. I'm thinking of mixing medium coarse akadama with bark and Scoria. Each in equal parts. I am smashing some lava rock to get it to the right size.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Those of you who've never crushed your own lava rock, it is SO therapeutic to smash it with a sledge hammer. Just don't go overboard.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Cleaned up stuff from some old successful grafts. That means I removed the tape and film involved. I left weaker grafts alone. They could probably be dealt with、but I choose to let the be.


It appears keloids happen when grafts take and have strong rapid growing shoots. I will try to clean that up by cutting them back another day.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Here it is cut back back roughly. It could use some wiring and maybe a little more snipping back. Hopefully I'll have a good show of flowers.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Really is a beaut!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Thank you! ??

Really is a beaut!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Toyed with moss this rainy morning.

 

[MariaM]

Toyed with moss this rainy morning.
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NICE!!!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

NICE!!!

Thank you! ??

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I'm happy to see flower buds, but they're not as abundant as I'd like and their sizes are so different, not consistent. Dont think I'll have a good show of flowers.

Waiting with anticipation, I check out my other quinces: Toyonishiki with pinks, reds, Improved Toyonishiki, and Utamaro. I keep coming back to Utamaro. I like it's red more. Its leaf shape and flower petals has some relatively subtle differences. I might just graft them on and not tell anyone I've done the deed. ?

First picture shows pink on white, pink, and an Improved Toyonishiki from Brent.


Second, my own Toyonishiki flowers contrasted by regular red Toyonishiki flowers.


Third is Utamaro on left and Toyonishiki on right. Sorry not great picture as its wet, a little chilly, and I've got work to do. ?

 

[River's Edge]

I'm happy to see flower buds, but they're not as abundant as I'd like and their sizes are so different, not consistent. Dont think I'll have a good show of flowers.

Waiting with anticipation, I check out my other quinces: Toyonishiki with pinks, reds, Improved Toyonishiki, and Utamaro. I keep coming back to Utamaro. I like it's red more. Its leaf shape and flower petals has some relatively subtle differences. I might just graft them on and not tell anyone I've done the deed. ?

First picture shows pink on white, pink, and an Improved Toyonishiki from Brent.
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Second, my own Toyonishiki flowers contrasted by regular red Toyonishiki flowers.
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Third is Utamaro on left and Toyonishiki on right. Sorry not great picture as its wet, a little chilly, and I've got work to do. ?
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Beautiful, have you noticed any reversion of colour after grafting? With the darker blooms becoming dominant on the plant.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Beautiful, have you noticed any reversion of colour after grafting? With the darker blooms becoming dominant on the plant.

Great question! It's too soon for me to say. Good thing is I post updates and my observations regularly for all to view.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Flower bud shots and observations.
Image 1 Improved Toyonishiki buds
Images 2-4 Toyonishiki buds from the bonsai of this thread, but 4 is Improved Toyonishiki thread grafted a while back to the apex..
Images 1, 2, and 4 the buds look alike, but I'm certain 1 and 4 will be red.
I've seen buds at this stage look like 1, 2, and 4, but they turn out pink or white with pink, not just tinged edges.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

So much to learn. I've had thoughts and reached out to a bonsai bro about my observation of flowering quinces. Why do mine flower and grow leaves at the same time, while all the other Toyonishiki I have that are not trained for bonsai bloom with hardly any leaves. The conclusion made was that it had to do with repotting.

Over these next few years, I'll try to postpone repotting for as long as I can. I'm also going to try not fussing with most of the branches. All but one of my final cuts were made today. I see no more flower buds forming, and if they would, it's too late.




Here's the last branch I'll prune back. It's gotten too thick, but it's still on because of its flower buds.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

The ones I think are red are turning red. Others, pinks and whites.

 

[BackyardBonsai]

Gorgeous!!!