Thuja Occidentalis 4

[HorseloverFat]

Too much "going on/FOR" it for me to pass up..

I'm leaving it alone until Spring '23.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Nice did you just collect it . always interesting to find what conditions trees were growing in . Helps fir search ideas .

 

[19Mateo83]

Wow!! That’s a purdy one! Lots of potential there.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Wow!! That’s a purdy one! Lots of potential there.

Tank ye, bredda!

 

[HorseloverFat]

Nice did you just collect it . always interesting to find what conditions trees were growing in . Helps fir search ideas .

Yes sir! Just pulled today in the drizzle!

It was growing in what I call "Wetland Benches" They develop over much time of trail use.. Railroads, Ex-Glacial Movements.. and People trails... they most resemble steep ditches in nature. You most likely know what I'm talking about and probably see these areas alot... Just think "The highEST... SunniEST spots... OF the low wetlands."

But yeah.. T'was KIND of a rescue.. because it was a good 1/3 of the way UP the little "crag"... and with the current water level, it was.. uh... "Half-in, half-out."

The soil it was collected from is ACTUALLY, mostly black, compost-base.. leaning toward clay.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

My latest cedar belief is moisture loving tree . But like juniper i am very confident can absorb moisture thru it’s foliage . A lot of serious juniper collectors . Use a misting regime . After collection my plans are to build a portable recovery table . With a micro irrigation mustang system built in . Battery operated timer just move it in and out if sun ad needed hook a garden hose up and program frequency . Of spray Wait till you guys see the object of my desire . Fishing find north west corner of a island on a lake . In a flat Rock where the winter wind can get it . Rock crack tree it’s lose in the crack . Plan is to enlarge the crack . This spring either collect the tree or more likely . Scar the roots and backfill with DE And collect next year when roots develop . Tree is about 35 inches high triple trunk . From a huge base tree is very ramified with small foliage lots of short branches I conservative estimate at least 100 years old I’ll get pics and post when I get back to it

 

[HorseloverFat]

My latest cedar belief is moisture loving tree . But like juniper i am very confident can absorb moisture thru it’s foliage . A lot of serious juniper collectors . Use a misting regime . After collection my plans are to build a portable recovery table . With a micro irrigation mustang system built in . Battery operated timer just move it in and out if sun ad needed hook a garden hose up and program frequency . Of spray Wait till you guys see the object of my desire . Fishing find north west corner of a island on a lake . In a flat Rock where the winter wind can get it . Rock crack tree it’s lose in the crack . Plan is to enlarge the crack . This spring either collect the tree or more likely . Scar the roots and backfill with DE And collect next year when roots develop . Tree is about 35 inches high triple trunk . From a huge base tree is very ramified with small foliage lots of short branches I conservative estimate at least 100 years old I’ll get pics and post when I get back to it

That sounds incredible!!!!

 

[Frozentreehugger]

That sounds incredible!!!

SDS 20v rotory hammer new toy . For drilling rock went with this as I have batts and charger already . That tree was the excuse . Go big or stay at home

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Collecting tips bro . If a tree looks like it has to spreading a root system . You think man to hard to collect . If in normal forest situation . This is where the flat faced small drain shovel is best flat faced sharpened edge . About 3 to 3.5 feet around the tree you just go straight down with shovel . Severe long roots leaving the deep roots . Then a single pick root hook . Home made from a large T handle torx driver bent in a vies rounded end . You rake out around the trunk base . I like sifted DE for its moisture retention pack it in and then add slow release fertilizer cakes . If it’s accessible. Regular watering in summer . Then collect next spring . Or the fall I don’t collect in the fall winters to nasty here . PS hide your work with moss or forest litter . People are nosy will go over shake the tree try to figure out what someone is doing and scree it up. If it’s more remote another trick is dig up spreading roots prune back to active roots then put them in large zip lock bags full of wet bonsai soil sealed leave on the surface. Let the sun heat them

 

[HorseloverFat]

Collecting tips bro . If a tree looks like it has to spreading a root system . You think man to hard to collect . If in normal forest situation . This is where the flat faced small drain shovel is best flat faced sharpened edge . About 3 to 3.5 feet around the tree you just go straight down with shovel . Severe long roots leaving the deep roots . Then a single pick root hook . Home made from a large T handle torx driver bent in a vies rounded end . You rake out around the trunk base . I like sifted DE for its moisture retention pack it in and then add slow release fertilizer cakes . If it’s accessible. Regular watering in summer . Then collect next spring . Or the fall I don’t collect in the fall winters to nasty here . PS hide your work with moss or forest litter . People are nosy will go over shake the tree try to figure out what someone is doing and scree it up. If it’s more remote another trick is dig up spreading roots prune back to active roots then put them in large zip lock bags full of wet bonsai soil sealed leave on the surface. Let the sun heat them

That's pretty neat!

The specimen would DEFINITELY have to be worth it, but it WAS, I really like this idea.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

It pays to take your time with extra special trees . After all the great stuff can be surprisingly old . Look at my Yama beaver. Old tree took long time to establish . And reduce the long roots . It sulked for a solid 3 years so pre prep is worth it .

 

[HorseloverFat]

It pays to take your time with extra special trees . After all the great stuff can be surprisingly old . Look at my Yama beaver. Old tree took long time to establish . And reduce the long roots . It sulked for a solid 3 years so pre prep is worth it .

I've been noticing that Thujas "Limp" for longer than others..

Limp with CONFIDENCE... but they limp nonetheless.

My Eyes are always looking for that 1 among the 1000s that is super interesting..

I will remember this process you've described.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

There surprising trees . Will grow in poor soil and take very harsh winter conditions in the wild . Secret is established roots . And access to water . Sensitive to heat and winter wind as a bonsai . Especially after repot or collection . That’s why the mist idea . I normally go semi shade and something like a wall or fence to break up wind . After collection

 

[HorseloverFat]

There surprising trees . Will grow in poor soil and take very harsh winter conditions in the wild . Secret is established roots . And access to water . Sensitive to heat and winter wind as a bonsai . Especially after repot or collection . That’s why the mist idea . I normally go semi shade and something like a wall or fence to break up wind . After collection

I kind of lucked out... my"growing area" is 3.5 walls (1.5 of them concrete) in a rectangle, with no roof/ceiling, So I have milder conditions, wind-wise. I also just protect EVERYTHING in winter.. That's what the Green Bay area bonsai veterans recommend... because of our strange area... they say, "MOST things need protection in containers, up here. So I just protect it all."- was a good one.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Most cedar collect well . The other prep I have mainly used with my love hate relationship with tsuga . But works great with deciduous chop the top cut the roots easy to collect next spring with growth from chop already started wild pre bonsai

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Too much "going on/FOR" it for me to pass up..

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So you don’t have a back yard more like a patio is that correct

 

[Frozentreehugger]

In honour of Nick Lenz passing today . Particular fond of his needle juniper and apple bonsai . HLF the white cedar with the carved head for a apex is particularly famous

 

[HorseloverFat]

In honour of Nick Lenz passing today

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I am familiar.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Most cedar collect well . The other prep I have mainly used with my love hate relationship with tsuga . But works great with deciduous chop the top cut the roots easy to collect next spring with growth from chop already started wild pre bonsai

Around here it's HARD to find interesting tsuga... they only start in established areas that I'm familiar with. Under massive canopies. so MANY get shaded out, and competed to death.

 

[HorseloverFat]

So you don’t have a back yard more like a patio is that correct

"Patio" is pretty generous!