The Identification Thread....perhaps?

[Dkdhej]

How many needles per?
Scots is 2.

Scots pine along with who knows how many other species of pines.
I think the needles look too long to be a Scots pine.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

@HorseloverFat - my friend and fellow Leo

What the F***K is a "poverty pine"? Could you at least use the botanical name or if you use a common name, use a common name that is not an obscure literary reference.

In northeastern Wisconsin, where you are located, your native 2 needles pines are Pinus resinosa, and Pinus banksiana. The common invasive species pines are Pinus nigra and Pinus sylvestris. A clue to identifying trees too young to produce cones with seed, is to see what mature specimens are in the neighboring landscape. Of the 4 two needle pines possible, which one's can be found within a quarter mile or half kilometer of where this seedling was collected?

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

@HorseloverFat
judging by the twisted needles, most likely Pinus banksiana, also known as Jack pine. But to be certain, you may have to wait for flowers and cones. Note: Pinus resinosa, sometimes called American red pine, has red pollen, the other candidates have yellow pollen. Though the American red pine was probably named for its reddish bark, but red pollen is pretty uncommon in the pine world.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Haha! “Poverty Pine” isn’t even the “GO-TO” common name for it. I typed it for “charisma’s” sake! The MOST common “common name” is Virginia Pine. I had INTENDED to type, “...(Pinus Virginiana).” DIRECTLY after “Poverty Pine” But I see, NOW that I did not.

Whoopsies!

 

[Vance Wood]

Haha! “Poverty Pine” isn’t even the “GO-TO” common name for it. I typed it for “charisma’s” sake! The MOST common “common name” is Virginia Pine. I had INTENDED to type, “...(Pinus Virginiana).” DIRECTLY after “Poverty Pine” But I see, NOW that I did not.

Whoopsies!

Virginia Pine is not likely in your location where it does not grow naturally. I too think it to be Jack Pine Pinus Banksiana.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Virginia Pine is not likely in your location where it does not grow naturally. I too think it to be Jack Pine Pinus Banksiana.

Thank you much... upon further examination into it, needle length and “twisted” characteristics mentioned by “OL”.. I believe this to be accurate.

 

[Wood]

I also ride MTB, and found some interesting trees for possible collection near some dirt jumps.

The site is next to a creek, and frequently has standing water in pits where extra dirt has been dug up for the jumps. (Edit: Northern Virginia)

This one is growing out of the side of a jump, and has had the branches pushed out of the way already. Given the leaves and trunk, I was thinking Carpinus caroliniana/American hornbeam, but I'm pretty inexperienced at this

 

[Wood]

This was at the same site (low-elevation, next to a creek, frequently wet soil, Northern Virginia). I thought the trunk had super cool scars along it. Zero idea on what this might be

 

[HorseloverFat]

It (first post) looks greatly like MY hop-hornbeam... an Ostrya.. but I don’t run across many.. so I DEFINITELY can not be certain.

 

[Aminaislam3791]

Would anyone be able to identify this as a schefflera arboricola? I found it on Facebook marketplace and the seller is unsure of whether or not its the dwarf schefflera. I would like to get it and experiment a bit, but I want to confirm that its an arboricola first

 

[Wood]

It (first post) looks greatly like MY hop-hornbeam... an Ostrya.. but I don’t run across many.. so I DEFINITELY can not be certain.

The leaves definitely look close, though this page suggests that hophornbeam would prefer a well-draining soil. It's definitely soggy, clay-based soil where these trees are. There's a ton of them in that area and I didn't see any of the mentioned bark-scaling on larger trees

 

[HorseloverFat]

This makes sense.. i found the one I have in gravelly soil.. on a hill/cliff side, in the shade of large Oaks and Black cherry trees.

 

[cbroad]

@Wood
First tree is definitely American hornbeam.

Second tree looks like a viburnum, possibly viburnum prunifolium (blackhaw viburnum). Second guess would be viburnum nudum (possumhaw viburnum). I think it's blackhaw because in your second pic, you can start seeing the plated bark near the base.

 

[Forsoothe!]

This is Arboricola, for sure...

 

[Balbs]

Any idea what this is? I found this in the woods behind my house today. Pretty much everything else has lost their leaves.

 

[TN_Jim]

Any idea what this is? I found this in the woods behind my house today. Pretty much everything else has lost their leaves.

First thought is a blueberry -Vaccinium sp.

Location?

 

[Balbs]

Im in central Massachusetts

 

[stu929]

I've been told it's likely American Hornbeam which I believe is correct but I would like to see if the group comes up with anything different.

 

[Balbs]

First thought is a blueberry -Vaccinium sp.

Location?

Thanks @TN_Jim. I looked at some pictures online of the bark and growth habit and I think you’re right.

 

[TN_Jim]

Thanks @TN_Jim. I looked at some pictures online of the bark and growth habit and I think you’re right.

Awesome, would look close at buds to try to further confirm or nail down species; although, blueberry buds can be highly variable from species to species.

You have pine needles on the ground possibly indicating the right habitat/soil type for them. Also, while many taxa like elm will zigzag from node to node, I think of blueberry doing this fairly consistently.

If you could get a close up image of buds could maybe nail it down. @Leo in N E Illinois knows more than many of us could hope to strive for on so many species, certainly Vaccinium. Thanks Leo if you see this.

If you look at buds I think it may be important to distinguish vegetative leaf buds from flowering, in this high bush image you may have the veg. bud is the smaller


here’s some examples from my region


On a further note also relative to this thread in general, these images are from a really great book I highly recommend, and despite the range map indicated on the back, covers quite a grip of species in the eastern US in general beyond those specific to here.