SC1989
Shohin
A really old amur maple I collected in April. Got a thread going for that
Species Study - Acer Platenoides/Acer Rubrum
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SC1989
Shohin
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I know, he has tipped me off a few times on my natives, but like I said , maybe not hiding. More so flying under the radar. I took no offense
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Planted a bag of Acer Rubrum "Old Glory" green-seed.
Annnd a bag of unique Acer Rubrum greenseed (with the most UNBELIEVABLE samara color)...
BOTH gifts from @19Mateo83 !!
Thank you!!
Annnd a bag of unique Acer Rubrum greenseed (with the most UNBELIEVABLE samara color)...
BOTH gifts from @19Mateo83 !!
Thank you!!
19Mateo83
Masterpiece
Those October glory’s are the prettiest vibrant red in the fall. I hope they pop up for you!
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
19Mateo83
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It’s ok, yours can be a new cultivar called old glory.
HorseloverFat
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Leo in N E Illinois
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I am chuckling, no offense taken.
And I don't want any you to try to grow JM, Acer palmatum simply does not survive winter in Minnesota, most of Wisconsin, my part of Illinois, or any place with a real zone 5a winter, or colder. If you have zone 4 or zone 3 winters, Japanese maples are something like palm trees, you can visit them on vacation. BUT many TECHNIQUES used on JM can be applied to most of the native maples. You need to learn about the techniques to see if they work on the native species you are able to grow.
BUT - there is a whole subforum called: MAPLES where most of the BNut regular and old timers make a habit of hanging out. It is under the same group of sub-forums where you find: Pines, Junipers, Other Conifers, Maples, Elms, Other Deciduous, Flowering, Fruiting, Tropicals, and Miscellaneous / Other
The point is, in and under Maple, there are many techniques discussed for the various maples, like JM or Acer rubra and the other maples, in the Maple forum, that you could be using or referring to.
So don't forget to look at the many, many threads in the Maple forum and to search the General forum for threads that cover the techniques and or topics you might have questions about. There is a vast storehouse of knowledge here on BNut. Don't forget to tap into it. I'm trying to help you save time by not having to re-invent the wheel. Dig into what others have done, it can save you time and effort. Maybe money too.
And I don't want any you to try to grow JM, Acer palmatum simply does not survive winter in Minnesota, most of Wisconsin, my part of Illinois, or any place with a real zone 5a winter, or colder. If you have zone 4 or zone 3 winters, Japanese maples are something like palm trees, you can visit them on vacation. BUT many TECHNIQUES used on JM can be applied to most of the native maples. You need to learn about the techniques to see if they work on the native species you are able to grow.
BUT - there is a whole subforum called: MAPLES where most of the BNut regular and old timers make a habit of hanging out. It is under the same group of sub-forums where you find: Pines, Junipers, Other Conifers, Maples, Elms, Other Deciduous, Flowering, Fruiting, Tropicals, and Miscellaneous / Other
The point is, in and under Maple, there are many techniques discussed for the various maples, like JM or Acer rubra and the other maples, in the Maple forum, that you could be using or referring to.
So don't forget to look at the many, many threads in the Maple forum and to search the General forum for threads that cover the techniques and or topics you might have questions about. There is a vast storehouse of knowledge here on BNut. Don't forget to tap into it. I'm trying to help you save time by not having to re-invent the wheel. Dig into what others have done, it can save you time and effort. Maybe money too.
Frozentreehugger
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Agreed I believe I. Learning all you can . Especially if your going to play with native and or oddball stud that is not mainstream . One never knows when info and techniques will cross apply to something your trying . And for sure learning what others have tried and failed at especially is useful to save time and money
. I have in the past tried a lot of stuff some gathered From other species in my love hate relationship with Tsuga Which I found another one of interest to restart with . Will show you guys pics left my phone at the cottage when I found abs trimmed it back in the field . Will work on it some in the field before collecting . Should be interesting collection. All I need is a saw . Tree is in a partially dried up old beaver pond ( know a swamp bog ) a very large tree fell over in a storm tore up a large root ball . Tree and root ball are so rotting hard to positive identify may be hemlock but I think strobus anyway the hemlock is grouting out of the rotting upturned rootball
Leo in N E Illinois
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By the way I have both an Amur maple and a rubrum as pre-bonsai. And volunteer platenoides in the ground all over the yard. I just need to take a little time and work with them this year.
HorseloverFat
Squarepants with Conkers
Yes!!!!!!! That's what I'm talking 'bout!
Ginnala is my FAVORITE!!
Rubrum and Platenoides are the "less-traversed-paths" that I have the most faith in responding consistently well to Bonsai Techniques over time...
With Rubrum.. It's worth planting a TON.. and selecting the most preferred handful..
I did this with Platenoides last year, too.. buuut the rabbits prefer platenoides.. and half my acer "selects" were gone with a "what's up, Doc?"..
I DID recently come across two interesting platenoides that I MAY collect using the lunar calendar and much consideration for aftercare..
I took pictures.
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Frozentreehugger
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A little surprised I collected Amur seeds left on a tree over winter planted in large containers in Ottawa naturally stratified . Planted this spring about 6 weeks ago so far nothing
SC1989
Shohin
Im done growing JM unless i decide to grow Matt O's bareroots for a summer. I have 3 , 3 year olds that made it and just going to sell. I ve spent much time delving into this forum. I am pretty sure it's paid off. Not able to travel 3 hours one way to spend time at Minnesota Bonsai Society.
Frozentreehugger
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I would join the society anyway even if you don’t attend meetings . Often there is outings for club members or special events discounted supplies guest speakers things that may interest you
Frozentreehugger
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Personally I believe there should be more interest in native trees in general in bonsai . Many people get a interest in the hobby . Then loss that interest quickly . The culprit is often poor advice often from books telling them only certain trees are suitable so they don’t succeed . Growing sometimes difficult species Or climate incomparable for easy growth they spend money for exotic trees or only have very young trees that grow slowly or struggle . So they quit . I have never heard of a area on this planet that does not have some plants suitable for bonsai native east to grow cheap to lots fail to understand importance of price for a given budget a novice could buy one exotic tree and completely fail 100 percent when it dies or multiple native trees and learn with higher rate of success . Established bonsai clubs and practisers have some responsibility here for this scenario playing out over abs over
Leo in N E Illinois
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You are in Duluth, not far from Nick Lenz's friend and apprentice, David Crust. I don't know if @crust has time for being sociable, but there's a small dedicated bonsai scene in Duluth. I've tagged David, perhaps he will message you or post meeting info if there is an organized group in Duluth.
SC1989
Shohin
I've found a twin ports bonsai society facebook page. Does not show much activity, going to ask the admins if we can be friends. The only enthusiast's I "know" are any nutters. It would be nice to hook up with locals. .. er just in as friends. Don't get the wrong idea! I'm married!
SC1989
Shohin
Doesn't Dave live on the Iron Range- Brainerd area?
Leo in N E Illinois
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You are correct "Brainerd" it is. In my decrepit mind, isn't Brainerd only a couple - few miles from Duluth, LOL. Okay, it's over 100 miles, maybe 120, and looks like there are no direct roads to get there.
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Shohin
Where is this thread. I have a few collected amurs I’m hoping pull through!
would love to learn more about your work with them
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