Frozentreehugger
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From DIr s. Book look carefully at the buds don’t quit follow you plataniods is Norway maple leaves of sugar are slightly smaller Notice also the edge of the leaf Norway is slightly serated sugar is not
Species Study - Acer Platenoides/Acer Rubrum
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Frozentreehugger
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This is black maple I may have a seed source . Fairly rare and getting rarer in pure form . It is sugar maple just different enough to deserve its own name . The leaves drop at the sides and normally does not turn red in fall but yellow . The nature bark gets black hence it’s name sugar gets grey bark Black is prized for its highest sugar content and best source of the strongest grade of maple syrup . Very hard to find even here in sugar country
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Orion_metalhead
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My fault. I thought that Platanoides was Sycamore Maple... i have Norway Maple, then. I can take close ups of buds tonorrow am.
Id love some black maple seeds /seedlings if youre handing them out.
Id love some black maple seeds /seedlings if youre handing them out.
Frozentreehugger
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NP don’t apologize we’re all in the same Lunny bin . All kinds of crazy laws and restrictions to ship live trees across the border both ways . Seeds are no problem just drop in mail . Very small amount of trees are restricted . Maple NP . If my source works out I’ll gladly share seeds when there nature in the fall . ( source is my maple syrup supplier from the sounds of it his new sugar bush he just purchased is black maple I’ll check it out this summer he already told me I can have seeds
Orion_metalhead
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Im a fan of native maples. I may have one near me also in the park.
0soyoung
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If you can cut a petiole, Platanoides bleeds a milky sap. 
... carry on.
... carry on.
Orion_metalhead
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Buds on mine. Looks like Platanoides
Frozentreehugger
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Sycamore also looks similar buds I should have gave you pic from the book also I’ll do that tonight . I think the main difference is leaves but I’m not familiar with sycamore But it’s definitely not sugar
Orion_metalhead
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Ill check my copy of Dirs also
Frozentreehugger
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Than you don’t need me to post
0soyoung
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But what about we lurking cheapskates?
We want to know. 
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We want to know.
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Frozentreehugger
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platinoides next door good growth study tree . When I moved here 17 years ago was planted the year before nursery stock . 5 feet tall 3 inch trunk . Neighbor. Was not happy when I told him it was not sugar maple as he was told when he purchased it . Anyway tree is about 30 feet high and 18 inches across the trunk . Sorry pic won’t load
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HorseloverFat
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Looks like tight internodes!
Frozentreehugger
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It’s a nice tree large your right it has reasonable internodes . Interesting to watch grow was slow for first 5 years then really took off . It’s a normal green leaf version . Don’t get me wrong there nice trees . But as far as I’m concerned 2 trees are over used . In landscape here they are the purple leaf version of Plat and the blue version of Alberta spruce I like colour as much as the next . But both normally are used where they draw attention to them and over power everything around them . That and in my world I happen to think trees are meant to be green . 
Cajunrider
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That may be true in all USDA north of zone 8. I know for a fact that in zone 9, Acer rubrum will burn if left to full sun down here. It can't take the sun and the heat combination. I have two and they are actually placed in my back porch and only get the morning sun (6:30 am to 11:00 am). They thrive and grow well in this condition. I've tried to move them to area with more sunlight multiple times and they faltered each time I tried.
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Frozentreehugger
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I have not looked it up I’m at work . But I would think that zone 8 would be the southern limit of rubrum So I’m shire your correct . There may be more heat tolerant strains in the south. But yes I was referring to sun up north . That was one of my points full sun where you are is considerable different than full sun where we are up north so is length of growing season buds have not even opened up here
Cajunrider
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For Acer rubrum, chopping the trunk 2 weeks after the leaves opened was painless. There was no sap flowing and new buds immediately showed for me. I think they were already there under the bark. Just about 2 days after I chopped, the new buds came out.
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Can I chop this maple really low now?
I once sealed a landscape dogwood after a massive cut back, with a torch! It worked so well I used it on a maple. Took a couple tries, but it worked. Wouldn’t advise it however! 😎. Wait. Patience is a virtue ! cheers DSD sends What about branding with a hot piece of steel?
SC1989
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Excellent thread here. Love my maples. Just another side project, but anyone have acer spicatum around. I've been playing with one for a couple years. It had lots of damage up top( left unprotected all winter), . Rabbit trunk chopped it for me. Was going to anyway, it had a weird inverse dual trunk too high. Just wondering if anyone is studying a spicatum
HorseloverFat
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I like spicatums.. but never had the pleasure of working with one.
Frozentreehugger
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I live in the heart of its range . But find it only rarely in the wild . I have a striped maple acer Pennsylvanian. At my cottage fairly rare here . A idiot relative of my wife’s trunk chopped it thinking it was a weed and thought he was helping clean up 
Luckily it is growing back but it grows slowly and has huge leaves I believe spicatun and it are related show us a pic of yours is it collected
Luckily it is growing back but it grows slowly and has huge leaves I believe spicatun and it are related show us a pic of yours is it collectedSimilar threads
