SI have decided to go back into bonsaiNut seclusion.ee ya guys.

@Smoke
But that's fine, you prove yourself with every post you make what kind of a person you are. I wonder if you were like this with your wife?
You have to make a personal attack about his deceased wife because you got called out about a post.
Pathetic!
 
@Smoke why did you have to write this? Have I ever attacked or talked negatively to you? I was actually forward to see a thread about trees.....but it seems like you think everyone is out trying to get you. Posts like you just wrote to me is why people can't get along with you. It's not about critiques on trees.....it's your replies that gets to people.

But that's fine, you prove yourself with every post you make what kind of a person you are. I wonder if you were like this with your wife?

Life is short, you should enjoy it. And since you think I'm out to get you too, this will be my last reply to you.
I have no idea who you are or what your deal is, but this is a bonsai discussion forum and a place to discuss bonsai, but before that can be done one has to post some, I'm not here to be your friend or be buddy buddy with you. I'm here same as you to discuss trees, now if you wish to discuss trees like you say, then post one up....otherwise leave me alone there are still way too many people who are all talk and no picture. If you think that's harsh...tough, that's what I'm known for and that's what you'll get. There are plenty of people on here that say nothing because they know where their spot is in the discussion. If you wish to learn then I'll say to you what I say at all my workshops, "lets begin, open your ears and close your mouths."

I prepared you right here:
You think I'm an asshole...wait.

I'm going to beat this picture thing till my fingers give up. You post here and don't post pictures, you better grease up the camera cause I will be relentless.
 
@Smoke you prove yourself with every post you make what kind of a person you are. I wonder if you were like this with your wife?

Actually my wife committed suicide to get away from my abusive behavior, thanks for asking.

Now you want to post a tree or you just gonna talk all day? I posted twenty while you were looking for which typewriter key to mash next.
 
@Smoke I was actually forward to see a thread about trees.....but it seems like you think everyone is out trying to get you. Posts like you just wrote to me is why people can't get along with you. It's not about critiques on trees.....it's your replies that gets to people.

This is a reply to words, not trees. Why do I have to be the one to post a tree? Answer truthfully? Why can't you post a tree? Post a tree and ask people what is is thats holding the tree back from becoming better. I guarantee you will get a hundred responses. Then when you get the responses, ask those who responded to post up a best tree so you can decide which persons suggestions would be best for you to apply to your tree. There are going to be those that know their shit, and there will be people that don't know anything. They just parrot back what someone said last week even if it's true or not. I don't like those people, they abound in life in other things too like politics and religion. It seems that for the human race we should change the saying to Three things that should never be discussed in mixed company, politics, religion, and bonsai. The same reasons for the original saying is the same reason in bonsai....lack of understanding and a need to feel important.

I would just love it if this forum had a "no words policy" and people just posted pictures of their trees. I can know all I need to know by the pictures you post. The pictures will tell me everything without ever uttering a word.
 
Thanks! Your absolutely right. We should all do what we are best at. It seems that for you it's talk. For me it's making trees. When you wish to change your major let me know.
Stunning.

The first tree is a very powerful composition. Is that the final pot for it? In the picture, it seems like it may be too small, almost making it look unstable. A similar pot with the walls at less of a slope, or maybe an inch larger overall, may be better suited in my opinion based on that picture.

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Lol I do have attached earlobes, maybe I should look into this...
 
Stunning.

The first tree is a very powerful composition. Is that the final pot for it? In the picture, it seems like it may be too small, almost making it look unstable. A similar pot with the walls at less of a slope, or maybe an inch larger overall, may be better suited in my opinion based on that picture.


Lol I do have attached earlobes, maybe I should look into this...
Your a good sport!

My reply on the 1/8 1/4 will be inn depth and educational....for some.
 
The first tree is a very powerful composition. Is that the final pot for it? In the picture, it seems like it may be too small, almost making it look unstable. A similar pot with the walls at less of a slope, or maybe an inch larger overall, may be better suited in my opinion based on that picture.

Thanks, The pot did exactly what it was supposed to do...

It's called adding dynamism

1. the quality of being characterized by vigorous activity and progress.
"the dynamism and strength of the economy"

2. the theory that phenomena of matter or mind are due to the action of forces rather than to motion or matter.

A feeling of unstable is a feeling that it may topple over or fall over, giving the composition movement, with out actually doing so. It's why Bunjin-gi is misunderstood. We don't understand it but it moves us. In bonsai many people, me included, feel that making someone think about it or feel uneasy is the best kudo you could give an artist. Thanks.
 
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Thanks, The pot did exactly what it was supposed to do...

It's called adding dynamism

1. the quality of being characterized by vigorous activity and progress.
"the dynamism and strength of the economy"

2. the theory that phenomena of matter or mind are due to the action of forces rather than to motion or matter.

A feeling of unstable is a feeling that it may topple over or fall over, giving the composition movement, with out actually doing so. It's why Bunjin-gi is misunderstood. We don't understand it but it moves us. In bonsai many people, me included, feel that making someone think about it or feel uneasy is the best kudo you could give an artist. Thanks.
Uneasy or uncomfortable is exactly the word I would have used, I couldn't think of it. Interesting. I suppose that's valid considering the image you are trying to make with this bonsai, is of a tree in nature similarly growing in less than ideal circumstances. You accomplished your job, I fell for the bait!
 
So, why are you even posting?

Because I can and you can't stop me. The mods could...maybe should even. But this form isn't really moderated and no one really wants it to be.

No wait...I got a better one! Because clearly my words have power...they've driven you and others to respond to me! I must be somebody! You're making a very Trumpian mistake even acknowledging me: never punch down...it just raises the visibility of your critics and lends them credibility they don't deserve. This thread should have died off already and many of people would have missed my words...but you respond to them and the threads at the top again! Woot!

Actually, the only reason I entered this fray is because of the shit ass way Smoke tends to treat people he can't gain respect from...and I thought it a great dig to throw his exact words back at him to usher him out the door the way he ushered me out the door.

Besides, if you've been paying attention...Smoke isn't gone...he's reacted to quite a number of posts to this thread. I'm almost willing to bet this was a stunt to stroke his ego...to see who the true followers are. He's become a lurker...a taker if you will.
 
You have to make a personal attack about his deceased wife because you got called out about a post.
Pathetic!
I don't see it as a personal attack. I've also been wondering how he treats his people around him....he seems compassionate, but he's also a narcissist. He goes out his way to hurt people.
I've been on a roller coaster about this guy the last few days...mostly trying to give him the benefit, but it's one step forward...few back. I'll never move forward with someone that don't respect others. Hell he don't even respect or understand the core purpose of this forum. Seems he has some perverted idea that everybody should follow him and be histrionic on their bonsai journey. Nah i've seen enough.
@Smoke we won't miss each other, so let's go back to what worked for us in the past. I'm dropping this thread and putting you on ignore. Plz do the same with me.
 
I don't see it as a personal attack. I've also been wondering how he treats his people around him....he seems compassionate, but he's also a narcissist. He goes out his way to hurt people.
I've been on a roller coaster about this guy the last few days...mostly trying to give him the benefit, but it's one step forward...few back. I'll never move forward with someone that don't respect others. Hell he don't even respect or understand the core purpose of this forum. Seems he has some perverted idea that everybody should follow him and be histrionic on their bonsai journey. Nah i've seen enough.
@Smoke we won't miss each other, so let's go back to what worked for us in the past. I'm dropping this thread and putting you on ignore. Plz do the same with me.
No it is wrong to bring someone’s family into a public forum over some petty bs! We can have debates. We can get mad as hell at each other. There’s no reason to bring up a deceased partner and say maybe they were treated poorly. Those who were around here at that time know he loved her and still does.
People wanna get mad because Smoke says post your trees. Just post your trees! That’s why we are here in this community forum.
You know I have seen the bonsai community do some great and fantastic things as a team.
The way people act on here behind a fake screen name is a damn shame.
 
Like what I just posted about.
Thought that was a question mark- lol
Maybe I will just stop responding to posts unless there is a pic attached- lol
 
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No it is wrong to bring someone’s family into a public forum over some petty bs! We can have debates. We can get mad as hell at each other. There’s no reason to bring up a deceased partner and say maybe they were treated poorly. Those who were around here at that time know he loved her and still does.
People wanna get mad because Smoke says post your trees. Just post your trees! That’s why we are here in this community forum.
You know I have seen the bonsai community do some great and fantastic things as a team.
The way people act on here behind a fake screen name is a damn shame.
Gees I unwatched this thread but it still pops up. Now I have to answer you.
I agree with not bringing family into threads, but it wasn't meant against her. It was merely a means to make a point. The point I was trying to make is...If he disrespects people so much here, how does he treat those close to him when things don't go his way?
But there I go again. I just want out of this damn thread.
 
Because I can and you can't stop me. The mods could...maybe should even. But this form isn't really moderated and no one really wants it to be.

No wait...I got a better one! Because clearly my words have power...they've driven you and others to respond to me! I must be somebody! You're making a very Trumpian mistake even acknowledging me: never punch down...it just raises the visibility of your critics and lends them credibility they don't deserve. This thread should have died off already and many of people would have missed my words...but you respond to them and the threads at the top again! Woot!

Actually, the only reason I entered this fray is because of the shit ass way Smoke tends to treat people he can't gain respect from...and I thought it a great dig to throw his exact words back at him to usher him out the door the way he ushered me out the door.

Besides, if you've been paying attention...Smoke isn't gone...he's reacted to quite a number of posts to this thread. I'm almost willing to bet this was a stunt to stroke his ego...to see who the true followers are. He's become a lurker...a taker if you will.

You’re welcome to post with content about bonsai. Posting trees of your own, or even commenting about other’s trees is meaningful participation. But just complaining about a poster because he was rude to you doesn’t help your bonsai, nor does it enhance your value to the community. In fact, it kinda puts you into “troll” status.

Whether you like Smoke or not, or whether you like Smoke’s trees or not, he did talk about bonsai. It’s ok to go off topic from time to time, but you haven’t been around and established yourself as someone worthwhile. I’m sure you could be, but until yesterday, I had not noticed that you have actually commented on bonsai. It had only been about Smoke.

Give people a chance to get to know you, by making meaningful posts about bonsai, and the people here will start to think you are “somebody”. And, the best way to make that happen is to start a thread or two that highlightsyour trees. Pictures speak a thousand words. Your trees don’t have to be great, but by posting them, they give people something to remember you by.

When I first started posting here, it was rather difficult to post pictures, so I didn’t post many. The site made it easier to post photos directly from my iPhone, do I started posting my trees. My credibility (and likes) went up! Yours will too. Once we see you actually do bonsai.
 
Gees I unwatched this thread but it still pops up. Now I have to answer you.
I agree with not bringing family into threads, but it wasn't meant against her. It was merely a means to make a point. The point I was trying to make is...If he disrespects people so much here, how does he treat those close to him when things don't go his way?
But there I go again. I just want out of this damn thread.
I don’t need an interpreter for @Pitoon words and behavior. Trust me when I say that you would not like this if it happened to you -if you were still grieving the loss of someone you loved.
 
Wait... smoke is stilll here? 😂 The long goodbye drags on! Hey whatever happened to banana man? Him and smoke should go make their own forum where maybe someone will give a shit if they’re gone. Good riddance.
 
Because I can and you can't stop me. The mods could...maybe should even. But this form isn't really moderated and no one really wants it to be.

No wait...I got a better one! Because clearly my words have power...they've driven you and others to respond to me! I must be somebody! You're making a very Trumpian mistake even acknowledging me: never punch down...it just raises the visibility of your critics and lends them credibility they don't deserve. This thread should have died off already and many of people would have missed my words...but you respond to them and the threads at the top again! Woot!

Actually, the only reason I entered this fray is because of the shit ass way Smoke tends to treat people he can't gain respect from...and I thought it a great dig to throw his exact words back at him to usher him out the door the way he ushered me out the door.

Besides, if you've been paying attention...Smoke isn't gone...he's reacted to quite a number of posts to this thread. I'm almost willing to bet this was a stunt to stroke his ego...to see who the true followers are. He's become a lurker...a taker if you will.
I just posted twenty trees, can you post even one?
 
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