Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
Yeah but it is dry heat. You should be OK.
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Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
I've come to realize (I work outside when we have orders) that once you reach 95° to 100°, hot is hot. The difference (and the danger) is that in higher humidity, you can tell you're sweating, and then you drink more water. In dry heat, people unfamiliar with it don't feel the sweat, and dehydration becomes a concern. Just keep drinking, even though you may not be thirsty.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
Underestimating high heat and not understanding it can kill you. Guy literally died on his bike in Death Valley from 128 degrees--Guess they figured riding would cool them off. Doesn't work like that. That dry air wrings water out of you and you don't really notice.
The converse is also true. This incident reminds me of folks from out west who come here to D.C.--which is basically a reclaimed tidal swamp with accompanying brutal summer humidity. Those folks thinking running in temps at 95 or so won't be a problem since they do it in Phoenix/LA/Vegas/Denver, etc. all the time. Here, and other places in the South, your sweat doesn't evaporate in the humid air. It just sticks to you and runs off. You get heat stroke because your evaporating sweat doesn't cool you off. Inevitably, there will be local news stories every summer of this underestimation by visitors when they collapse in their running shoes running the National Mall looking at the Capitol/monuments.
www.latimes.com
The converse is also true. This incident reminds me of folks from out west who come here to D.C.--which is basically a reclaimed tidal swamp with accompanying brutal summer humidity. Those folks thinking running in temps at 95 or so won't be a problem since they do it in Phoenix/LA/Vegas/Denver, etc. all the time. Here, and other places in the South, your sweat doesn't evaporate in the humid air. It just sticks to you and runs off. You get heat stroke because your evaporating sweat doesn't cool you off. Inevitably, there will be local news stories every summer of this underestimation by visitors when they collapse in their running shoes running the National Mall looking at the Capitol/monuments.
Motorcycle tour of Death Valley turns fatal as thermometer cracks 128 degrees
As the temperature climbed to a record 128 degrees in Death Valley National Park, a group of motorcyclists was sickened by the heat, and one died.
www.latimes.com
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Missing father and son found dead in Carlsbad Caverns National Park
A father and son were found dead in Carlsbad Caverns National Park after a weekend of hiking in 100-degree weather.
www.usatoday.com
Yes. People should research the climatological differences before they travel so they know how to overcome the challenges of different regions.
Growing up near Lake Texoma, I know what humid heat is. Evaporation is so low that sweat barely cools you, if it does at all. Here in the desert, I get sweaty because I have to wear FR coveralls. But in my off time, t-shirt or tank top with sunblock. I've worked 12 hour shifts in 100°+, straight through. I drank about 1.5 gallons of water and a large sports drink, and only had to relieve myself when I got home.
But most of my trees can't do that.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
meanwhile..
Been raining most of the day today. Gutters overflowing and heavy waterflow on the cityroads. About 3 inches so far today.
Next week should be calmer and summery
Been raining most of the day today. Gutters overflowing and heavy waterflow on the cityroads. About 3 inches so far today.
Next week should be calmer and summery
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Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
The dry heat is a joke for all people who have lived and worked in AZ.
IRL it is no joke. Dry heat will kill. You don't feel that hot and all in a sudden you are dehydrated and then the heat comes at you like a freight train.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Glad you're getting rain, but praying for warm air and clear skies for you. Sounds like you could use a drying out period.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Yeah, you definitely get it. Have you been to the desert? Like Louisiana, it's beautiful and dangerous. Everything here is trying to pierce you, poison you, trip you...
Rattlesnakes (at least 8 species), cacti, black widows, thorny trees (mesquite, acacia, etc.) mountain lions, bears, bobcats, loose scree on craggy trails. But at least we don't have gators! lol
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
Yep. Spent a bit of time working in Phoenix. Back then I spent every afternoon running up and down Camel Back trail and then spend the weekends in the desert.
It is more comfortable that exploring the swamp. There you don't have to wear wader. Other than that, it is dangerous as hell.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Love Phoenix. Next time I visit my brother and family I'd like to visit the famous juniper that was saved by the ill-fated wildland firefighters.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Thx. Last stats I saw I think to remember said this year we receive twice the annual precipitation already. I doubt we had a week without precipitation since october.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Not sure this plays outside of the EU, but maybe it will. This afternoon city centre of the town where I work.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Wow. I can't even fathom the idea of that much precipitation, in any form. ±60 inches is 5 times our annual precipitation.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
Sheesh! If we get 1/2" of rain uphill from town, our streets look like that. That's German engineering for ya! 3" and that's the extent of the flooding? Not bad at all.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
2 inches in 6 hours in that town. That is DUTCH engineering
It is funny, I was looking for a better picture. This tunnel fills with water every time we have a system like that passing though. They have tried so much but somehow there are so many streets connected to that point the pumps just cannot handle it
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The village I live in Germany I have never seen flooded like that. Where I live a few puddles is all that happened today and an hour after the rain the streets were cleared of those too.
Cajunrider
Imperial Masterpiece
60+ inches is the annual average for my area.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
That sounds about right. 13" here.
Japonicus
Imperial Masterpiece
You got that right. After carrying mail for 37 yrs in the River Cities here...it's accumulative and you have to prepare in the days prior for each day. I lost 8 pounds a day often. 5 hours in a metal can with no A/C. The fan on the dash converts it to a convection oven. They're phasing out those LLVs now.Underestimating high heat and not understanding it can kill you. Guy literally died on his bike in Death Valley from 128 degrees--Guess they figured riding would cool them off. Doesn't work like that. That dry air wrings water out of you and you don't really notice.
The converse is also true. This incident reminds me of folks from out west who come here to D.C.--which is basically a reclaimed tidal swamp with accompanying brutal summer humidity. Those folks thinking running in temps at 95 or so won't be a problem since they do it in Phoenix/LA/Vegas/Denver, etc. all the time. Here, and other places in the South, your sweat doesn't evaporate in the humid air. It just sticks to you and runs off. You get heat stroke because your evaporating sweat doesn't cool you off. Inevitably, there will be local news stories every summer of this underestimation by visitors when they collapse in their running shoes running the National Mall looking at the Capitol/monuments.
Motorcycle tour of Death Valley turns fatal as thermometer cracks 128 degrees
As the temperature climbed to a record 128 degrees in Death Valley National Park, a group of motorcyclists was sickened by the heat, and one died.
Officially hit 100°F downtown today. 99 at airport himidity 50% and dew point 70.5F.
Higher tomorrow.
Desert O'Piñon
Chumono
@Japonicus , plus the added advantage of the exercise you get running from loose dogs! Thank you for the work you do!
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
My backyard in the shade yesterday. Hotter today.
