Scouting for Trees

[thumblessprimate1]

I went looking for Hackberry and Elm, and I found a few decent stuff.

Here's a Chinese Privet, invasive stuff.


Here's a Hackberry. I love the warty bark. Didn't find any with taper or curvy trunks, but this still makes me excited for spring.


Examples of hackberry bark I saw.


Some hackberry twiggy branches.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Are these winged bark elm?


Another elm or an unusual hackberry?


This looks like the domestic wax leaf ligustrum growing wild. I've never seen one so huge. It's even started to have some rough bark.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Maybe airlayer this piece for a twin trunk?

 

[Steve Kudela]

Are these winged bark elm?
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Another elm or an unusual hackberry?
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This looks like the domestic wax leaf ligustrum growing wild. I've never seen one so huge. It's even started to have some rough bark.
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Fairly certain those top 3 are winged elm.

 

[sorce]

Dope base on that Hack.

Hope you got kids!

Sorce

 

[Anthony]

Merry Xmas to All.

Thumbless,

great trees Hackberrys, the source down here was Lafayette, Louisiana, back in 1980 or so.
A refrigerator is used from around 25 January to 1st April, set on vegetable crisper temp.
Now testing for root and above trunk zones for Tropical growth.

Guy Guidry has an amazing example seen on-line.

Those down here are just loving memories, nothing worth showing ---------- before you ask.
Best of collecting.
Good Day
Anthony

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Thanks, guys.
@Anthony. I got my coffee and watching this video. Thanks for the tip. Cool, informative and entertaining. He's got some really nice Hackberry. Among other great American yamadori.

Checking out his FB page. I have a growing love for American deciduous yamadori. He's got a killer water elm there.

 

[JudyB]

Love hackberry for bonsai. You should do well with it in your climate. I've found that I shouldn't prune after mid July, or I loose twigs. Keep us posted!

 

[Anthony]

Thumbless.

Thank You!!
Never seen the video.

One point, we do not hit the wood of a bent tree, will shatter the wood badly, and the shatter crack will often travel up.
More damage to repair.
Get a Japanese pull saw and saw through.

I can show this and let you know it is now two trees. The point 6" above the trunk was airlayered. The root zone will go back to the
fridge, and the rest will stay in a north area out of the breeze, let us see if it survives.

Judy, thanks for the tip !

Merry Christmas and Season's greetings you two.

After all these years we are still collecting information.
Good Day
Anthony

Apologies if you have seen this before

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Thumbless.

One point, we do not hit the wood of a bent tree, will shatter the wood badly, and the shatter crack will often travel up.
More damage to repair.
Get a Japanese pull saw and saw through.

Anthony, are you referring to the video where they whack the tap root with the medieval Chinese weapon looking tool?
I've got a little axe nice and sharpened. Preparing to buy some strong shovels. I've got a nice yellow Silky Japanese pull saw. Works like a dream.

 

[Anthony]

No hitting please Thumbless, [ no axes ]

dig and saw. Get the pole digging shovel they have in the video.
Also pray for no clay soils.
Good Day
Anthony

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Awe, I was hoping for a chance to swing an axe and beat my chest.

This looks like a good tool. What do ya say?
http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Steel..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=0XCZ9EB8NDZJCSW3YKBW

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Cedar Elm or winged Elm, who knows, but I have more to pick from.


Soil may be tough.


I may avoid the hackberry here. At least at first.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Elm got twisty from honeysuckle

 

[eferguson1974]

What are the problems

No hitting please Thumbless, [ no axes ]

dig and saw. Get the pole digging shovel they have in the video.
Also pray for no clay soils.
Good Day
Anthony

What are the problems with digging trees in clay? I ask because theres a lot of it here. I chopped a few ficus in my jungle and Im waiting to see how they backbud, as I dont know the species. Anyway there growing in clay soil. Is it the digging or does the tree not like being changed to bonsai soil? Or is it a species specific problem? And do I bare root ficus or let it keep some clay when collecting and going in a collander? Sorry for borrowing the thread but its probably not worth a new thread. Thanks for any answers

 

[Anthony]

E, trees in clay soils on my side tend to grow thick roots, with feeder roots many yards away.
If you dig, you often end up with stumps that may not regenerate.

Ficus, can often be treated as big cuttings, since they throw out new roots so easily.

Often it is better to dig a half or one third of a circle around the tree, sever the roots, and hollow out a shape that can be back filled with a bonsai soil mix,
and wait a year to do the other side, and if doing a third, yet another year.
Of course try to observe before cutting, as to where or which roots you cut.

This is what you do with found specimens that are exceptional.

Try and get to that Herbarium, you should have a gold mine on your side.
No Chlorophora t. [ fustic ] on your side [ see sawmill / lumber yards - look for a bright yellow wood that is hard ]
Now if you found a 3" to 5" trunk with elm type leaves, well as we say on our side ------------ We papa, yuh dogs bright for suh!
Good Day
Happy Holidays
Anthony

* Clay soil in Bonsai pots are not good, too slow to drain, can root rot.

 

[sorce]

few ficus

Eferg.....

You may want to just airlayer them where they stand.
Have a good spread in a season!
Along with a chop at collection.....they should do Well.
Way faster I reckon!

Sorce

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Got permission from a private land owner to dig some trees today. His land happens to border mine own. I like the small elms that he's chopped already.


I like some of the smaller hackberry he's chopped.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

What I definitely will get is this hackberry by my fence. I'm very intimidated by it as it's huge and very solidly planted.

Yeah...I have no cordless reciprocating saw. Just puny 120lb of me and hand saws.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

There is this clump that I want to get also. It's about 6 ft, and it looks like it is styled and could go straight into a large bonsai pot. At least it did while I was out there looking at it.