Pinching Vance Wood: the challenge

Man...waiting for the debate last night nearly killed me...

Now...I gotta wait till Monday for Trump to make his video, damn..I'm gonna need a sedative.
Just don't mix your sedative with your laxative. However; if you do it will give you something to do while you wait.
 
Lets just hope all this posturing is worth it after the video
I doubt that it will be but I am not going to sit and be quite when everybody that pays attention to this forum is trying to do something they don't need to do.
 
Vance, consider this; thousands, if not millions of bonsai practitioners are doing juniper wrong worldwide and you are the only one who is doing it right, despite all of the evidence that points the other direction. Its very likely that you are the only one on this forum that has not wasted their time working on junipers.
You are the only one who can teach the millions that they are wrong despite all evidence.

WWVD?
 
Should i only trim the runners or can i also pinch new growth (for more light into inner branches) ? In your example i cannot pinch a bunch together but can i pinch individual foilage?
 
I doubt that it will be but I am not going to sit and be quite when everybody that pays attention to this forum is trying to do something they don't need to do.
Double down..... I like it.
 
Please gentlemen , in your elaboration beside the technique don't forget to give some basic explanation like
I'm doing this because I want to: - develop this tree (branch)
- refine the finished tree
- prepare the tree for exhibition, which is next ( week, month,year}
I think that only then lots of unnecessary post can be avoided and we can all learn something.
Or , am I just on wrong forum and everything what will follow is agenda for something else.

Hope I didn't ruin it for those that have already prepare some popcorns and take the Monday off.
 
and you are the only one who is doing it right
In my club I saw quite a few old hands rubbing the growing tips of complete pads. And these trees were in excellent shape, without any sign of browning of previous tipping. So I doubt he is the only one doing it, right?
I would say, never to young to be critical ,but never to old to learn either! (Then again, I have only been doing this for half a decade, so there is more to leanr than what I know already ;) )
 
Pinching the tips was taught a long time ago. So, it's still popular with the old timers. But, the current practice is not to pinch, but cut back.
 
It's kind of like the new math, and what makes you think you will even listen when I explain the process, you don' t seem to listen when I tell you I don't have the time to do it till Monday at the earliest. In the maean time why don't you make a video demonstrating the method you have been trying to explain? There are enough of you one of you should have a camera and the where with all to pull it off.
Vance, consider this; thousands, if not millions of bonsai practitioners are doing juniper wrong worldwide and you are the only one who is doing it right, despite all of the evidence that points the other direction. Its very likely that you are the only one on this forum that has not wasted their time working on junipers.
You are the only one who can teach the millions that they are wrong despite all evidence.

WWVD?
 
Vance, consider this; thousands, if not millions of bonsai practitioners are doing juniper wrong worldwide and you are the only one who is doing it right, despite all of the evidence that points the other direction. Its very likely that you are the only one on this forum that has not wasted their time working on junipers.
You are the only one who can teach the millions that they are wrong despite all evidence.

WWVD?
Are you aware that a misspelling of your avatar makes it crap? I somehow found this interesting. I don't care if 6 Billion people are pinching their Juniper the way you would like me to Pinch my Junipers. There was a time when every body in bonsai in America told me that you cannot make a bonsai out of a Mugo Pine. They were wrong. So I have found a way that works and I am not going to change it for you or the othere 5 billion 499 million 999thousand 9 hundred and 99 and 1 poeple continue to do it the new way. This is getting funny. I am liable to just sit on what I know and let you guys keep screwing things around the way you are now doing it, until you start to see what I have been seeing.
 
you are the only one who is doing it right,
Don't forget about me.
Also Vance's shimpaku that has been pinched is at the same place as mine that hasnt. We'll take side by side pictures of them showing how much tighter and smaller the foliage is on that one compared to one that hasn't been touched. The difference is quite big. And I looked close at his. There are no brown tips to be found.
Maybe thousands if not millions of bonsai practitioners have it wrong. I say not wrong but different.
Have any of you even went out and tried to pinch a piece of foliage off of a juniper since this started? Or you afraid of maybe doing some learning for yourselves? Just a small piece?
Try it. You might just surprise yourself.
 
Don't forget about me.
Also Vance's shimpaku that has been pinched is at the same place as mine that hasnt. We'll take side by side pictures of them showing how much tighter and smaller the foliage is on that one compared to one that hasn't been touched. The difference is quite big. And I looked close at his. There are no brown tips to be found.
Maybe thousands if not millions of bonsai practitioners have it wrong. I say not wrong but different.
Have any of you even went out and tried to pinch a piece of foliage off of a juniper since this started? Or you afraid of maybe doing some learning for yourselves? Just a small piece?
Try it. You might just surprise yourself.
Here ya go Mike, I pinched a tip!
 

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Those look like pollen cones that have formed. They are not likely the result of pinching, they are too even and consistent in shape.
 
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