Napa Oil Dry part no. 8822

[jomawa]

"reading forums 101"

Dang, don't even kid about going there. To stoop so low as to confuse an issue with the truth. Shame on you Source. You know durn well no matter how much truth you throw in the pot, many will refuse to accept it.
Re. This thread --- pumice, pumice, and more (uhhh, yup, you guessed it) pumice. Wull, that's what I'm using now anyway, because when I researched it, it tended to be a majorly used soil stuff to a great degree. Besides, it's available for reasonable here, and the water we've had pouring from the sky these last few months, (and ever since I started using pumice) has been enough to water my trees which are still alive by the way so pumice must be the way to go!!! Was gonna water yesterday because it hadn't rained for two days, but it actually began raining before I got any watering done. (praise de' Lowd)
Re. the substance/soil mix, maybe what is being done is how it should be. What I'm translating out of my readings is this person and that person and those other peoples, (whether they be good bonsaists, poor bonsaists, masters, hobbyists, ho-hummers....) they all seem to work it out for themselves, in their specific climate, for the specific specie(s) they have. Too bad there isn't just a bonsai soil that simply works!!!
Th-th-th-that's my story and I'm uhhh, ssssst-stick'en to it. Durn it, where's the tongue in cheek icon???

 

[Woodland Spirit]

I got some floor dry from O'Reilly's.
I don't know if it's consistent from bag to bag but so far I am pleased. It is fairly hard for DE (still quite crushable) mostly the same size and very little dust. A little bigger than cat litter but not as big as I'd like. It doesn't desolve like the locally available cat litter does. No slime or mud. Can be gently manipulated when wet.
I worked it into the roots under water, worked nicely.

Edit: for some reason only one picture worked and the others seem to be missing from my phone.
That is my test boxwood. Not intended for anything but playing with.

 

[Woodland Spirit]

This little manzanita was carefully washed out of its soil and planted in floor dry today. It is a naturally ground layered branch with plenty of nice new white roots. We'll see how it compares to it's sister's in a few weeks.

 

[Woodland Spirit]

I wonder what would happen if the initial soaking was done with water containing fertilizer?

 

[jomawa]

I wonder what would happen if the initial soaking was done with water containing fertilizer?

That's a great question. That's really thinking. Looking forward to a report on your results. The only fert I would recommend is osmocote 14-14-14 because that's the only one I use because that's the only one I bought to easily give me an ample (hopefully!!!) suply of fertilizer. But since it is a timed release, am not aware how well/bad it would be in your situation.

 

[GrimLore]

I wonder what would happen if the initial soaking was done with water containing fertilizer?

I avoid using fertilizer after a repot up to 2 weeks, sometimes more... Consider every repot a "sin" and that like cutting back or root pruning takes a bit of time for the plant to recover. Let them recover and "show" it... You and yours plants will be happier

Grimmy

 

[Geo]

What about liquid seaweed extract as a soil drench after repotting?

 

[M. Frary]

I avoid using fertilizer after a repot up to 2 weeks, sometimes more... Consider every repot a "sin" and that like cutting back or root pruning takes a bit of time for the plant to recover. Let them recover and "show" it... You and yours plants will be happier

Grimmy

If feeding day falls on the day after I repot I fertilize. I don't think it makes a bit of difference. I also stick my trees right back in full sun after repot also.
Not disagreeing with playing it safe at all though.

 

[GrimLore]

If feeding day falls on the day after I repot I fertilize. I don't think it makes a bit of difference. I also stick my trees right back in full sun after repot also. Not disagreeing with playing it safe at all though.

Depends and I should have mentioned on the type of repot - I was seeing that @Woodland Spirit was doing a full substrate change out which itself can and often does kill things like Junipers. I just did a bare root on a Tropical today which is way out of season but needed as it had root rot. That one will get no fertilizer until I see at least 100 buds on it and minimal water by misting.

Grimmy

 

[aml1014]

If feeding day falls on the day after I repot I fertilize. I don't think it makes a bit of difference. I also stick my trees right back in full sun after repot also.
Not disagreeing with playing it safe at all though.

I'm the same way, no matter what it is, even cuttings or collected material, I fertilize on feeding day no matter what and I've never had problems. I'm only careful if it's an out of season repot, which doesn't count for my tropicals since they are greenhouse kept.

Aaron

 

[Woodland Spirit]

I (almost) never repot without giving it something to reduce shock.

Also I washed the roots extremely carefully to get them out of the soil to reduce root damage then added soil under water. The damage to the roots was very little.

My question about the fertilizer is what about when you mix the fertilizer into the soil? Like time released stuff

 

[Geo]

Yes. i would like to know about time release ferts too.Specifically,I have a bag of Safer's 10-10-10.They recommend 'sprinkling' the granules on the surface of the soil.Even have a photo of an American dime laying there with the granules around it.To give perspective of how many I suppose.It is garden fert.Just wondered if it might be alright.Tired of MG and thought it might have more trace elements.
Duh! It is Scott's,not Safer's. As a note.the granules used in this product are both polymer and sulpher coated.

 

[M. Frary]

then added soil under water

??????! Huh??????

 

[Nwaite]

Yep. A big,fat,jawclenching,throat closing eye watering gagger.

LOL wtf ....

 

[sorce]

We're not only putting words in mouths huh?

Nice!

Don't forget to soak up the aftermath.

Sorce

 

[Woodland Spirit]

Added soil under water. Thus making it much easier to get into the roots without harming them.

A simple matter of putting the pot in a bucket.
Obviously this isn't going to work with mixes or things that float but it's actually quite logical. Even if it's not something your familiar with.

 

[CWTurner]

A simple matter of putting the pot in a bucket.

I do this myself as a means of settling the soil, also believing that it is gentler on the roots. I usually put the pot into a bus tray (large plastic pan) filled with water and shake the pot. You can actually see the soil settle.
Never added the soil while the pot was underwater, but if it works for you, I might try that a well.
CW

 

[CWTurner]

BTW, I spilled some oil opening up a submersible pump and the #8822 does a good job of soaking up oil too. Who'da thought that.
CW

 

[Underdog]

and the #8822 does a good job of soaking up oil too. Who'da thought that.

That's what the sifted out fines are for

 

[Nwaite]

That's what the sifted out fines are for

Or add a bit of milk and some blue berries and it's so good for breakfast. ..