mugo pine propagation from cuttings.

[sorce]

This intrigues me because several times I have simply jammed an untreated cutting into a pot of another plant while I was pruning a,d the plant rooted. A fw years ago I was trimming an elm and I prepared a few treated cutting in a sterile mix under lights, and they did not take. But the couple I jammed into other pots of other trees did root.

@M. Frary did the cutting jam claiming great success.
Reckon it has something to do with a pot that is already "myced up", AKA they can hear each other saying, "this is a good place to grow".

Sorce

 

[James W.]

Iseli Nursery sells mugos from cuttings, TruDwarf is their trade name. I wonder if they would share their methods? From the varieties that are available it is apparent that not all mugo pine cultivars can be successfully rooted from cuttings.

 

[MaciekA]

Iseli is in the region where I live in Oregon. I am confident that if anyone could root cuttings, it's an operation like Iseli, but I don't think they're spending time doing that. There are folks in this part of the Willamette Valley whose full time job is grafting. All of the Iseli mugo pine nursery stock I've ever seen or worked with is grafted onto the trunks of other pine species, and this includes some of their dwarf offerings.

 

[James W.]

Iseli is in the region where I live in Oregon. I am confident that if anyone could root cuttings, it's an operation like Iseli, but I don't think they're spending time doing that. There are folks in this part of the Willamette Valley whose full time job is grafting. All of the Iseli mugo pine nursery stock I've ever seen or worked with is grafted onto the trunks of other pine species, and this includes some of their dwarf offerings.

All the mugos labeled "TruDwarf" are rooted cuttings, not grafted.

 

[MaciekA]

I want to believe, and learn their methods, but what is your source?

 

[Crazy Diamond]

The nurserys wont share their secrets to propagate them, they dont want you to propagate they want you to buy them xD

 

[James W.]

I want to believe, and learn their methods, but what is your source?

Iseli's propaganda claims that TruDwarf varieties are from cuttings.
A sales representative confirmed this.
I have several "Mops" mugos from Iseli that have no grafts.
I have seen "Slowmound" mugo from Iseli with no graft.

I would be surprise if they ever share their secrets.

 

[MaciekA]

My guess from my own propagation failures/successes and a reading of Dirr's manual is that Iseli's setup would involve:

• A greenhouse with well-diffused light and very good management of temperatures (w/ temps kept low)
• Automated misting, but to keep the environment humid, not necessarily to mist the cuttings directly
• Carefully-selected media that doesn't skimp on either water or air availability -- perlite or something similar
• Bottom heat for the trays
• Very clean practices and sharp tools when making the cuttings,
• Trial-and-error-perfected dosage of hormone
• Fancy additives as seen in @cmeg1 threads?

Speaking of which, I bet @cmeg1 could root a mugo cutting in his sleep, he's got a lab-style setup and a take-notes mentality.

 

[cmeg1]

could root a mugo cutting in his sleep, he's got a lab-style setup and a take-notes mentality.

Thats funny.
I will perhaps venture into it when I get the outdoor setup going….just know room at the moment.

 

[sorce]

know room

Is that like a think tank?

Sorce

 

[bwaynef]

I can verify that it is doable. I bought 10 or so P. mugo 'Pumila" rooted cuttings a couple years ago. Perfect radial one-level roots. These things grow SLOW by the way. I didn't ask about the methodology of rooting them, but I've seen a research paper pdf that outlines the process. I haven't had enough material to try my own.

 

[sorce]

Extensions, corner store extensions but they extensions.


Little late to take more since everything is already extending, I may do it to fail on purpose without projecting failure or having an intention to do so.

Note.....

If this proves true, that they won't have the energy to root after they've decided to grow, it will give credit to the idea that repotting single flush pines in spring is detrimental, even if you "don't notice".

Sorce

 

[BonjourBonsai]

corner store extensions

 

[sorce]

Good timing! I just checked em the other day and found em holding their own!



Sorce

 

[James W.]

Doing some pruning so stuck some trimmings, 72 mixed pumilio and "Valley Cushion". Used some Rootone powder on each stem. Keeping them wet and in the shade. We'll see what happens.

 

[sdavis]

I know the first thing you think would be impossible right. I'm not talking about a germinated seed cutting. I didn't think it was possible but I typed in mugo propagation in google and all that kept showing was a PDF.
Written in 1968 which is the only proof of mugo propagation. I was planning on working on 3 of my mugos today so I will be trying this propagation method.

http://horticulture.oregonstate.edu/content/propagation-mugo-pine-successful

I am just sharing this method because I haven't even heard of pine propagation by softwood/hardwood cuttings before. So I thought I would share it first on bnut, thanks for reading guys.

Iseli Nursery in Portland Oregon is doing mugo cuttings.....

 

[James W.]

72 more prunings, "Slowmound"
These are primarily extended candles with about 1/3 of them including some of last years hard wood. Keeping them moist and in the shade.

 

[Vance Wood]

72 more prunings, "Slowmound"
These are primarily extended candles with about 1/3 of them including some of last years hard wood. Keeping them moist and in the shade.

View attachment 443624

You grew these from cuttings?

 

[Kadebe]

If this proves true, that they won't have the energy to root after they've decided to grow, it will give credit to the idea that repotting single flush pines in spring is detrimental, even if you "don't notice".

Maybe that's the very reason why harry harrington repots Mugos in the summer?

Pinus mugo/ Mugo Pine Bonsai Indepth – Bonsai4Me

www.bonsai4me.com

 

[sorce]

Maybe that's the very reason why harry harrington repots Mugos in the summer?

Pinus mugo/ Mugo Pine Bonsai Indepth – Bonsai4Me

www.bonsai4me.com

I heard the real reason has posted just before you!

Sorce