Driftwood
Mame
Lol, to be honest, it is a random picture but yes it looks all right from there... food for though!
Large multitrunk maple, Acer palmatum yama-momiji.
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leatherback
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OK, good to see you working the roots.
I think I woul dhave worked on the bottom of the roots more to be honest, but hard to tell from pictures.
I think I woul dhave worked on the bottom of the roots more to be honest, but hard to tell from pictures.
Leo in N E Illinois
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A set of photos taken against a neutral plain background, taken with the camera lens on the same plane as the upper rim of the pot. All the previous photos have been looking down at the tree. A photo every 45 degrees around the tree would help. That is, if you want styling advice. Otherwise, it looks like a great tree.
Driftwood
Mame
The tree is getting old so removed about 60% at the bottom to be safe.... Didn't want to be carried away like with the previous two
Driftwood
Mame
Yeap, actually Sergio mentioned so I bought a background stand in order to take better pictures... It will be a bit of a pain moving this tree to do that but perhaps tomorrow. Thank you.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Move the backdrop instead?
Driftwood
Mame
Lol yea I'm afraid I'll have to do both. It's under some kind of tall hedge for afternoon shade.
Driftwood
Mame
Hi, all. So I manage to take some pictures today... got some closeups but the pictures are not that great and maybe not necessary also I'm afraid that the existing front and back are at a small angle. I haven't pruned yet.
The order is front, left, back and right.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Maybe a new front..
Wizeeerrrddd
Mame
I feel like these branches would cause more problems if you choose this front.
This one has more character I think but I cant really make a decision one that lower branch through a picture. The overall balance of the tree in accordance to the trunk sizes looks better. I would cut the tree back a lot, you would have to do more root work eventually as well to get a better nebari.
I imagine the trunk at the back would put people off this side though.
This one has more character I think but I cant really make a decision one that lower branch through a picture. The overall balance of the tree in accordance to the trunk sizes looks better. I would cut the tree back a lot, you would have to do more root work eventually as well to get a better nebari.
I imagine the trunk at the back would put people off this side though.
Driftwood
Mame
Driftwood
Mame
Cut back a lot? could you be more specific? rootwork / nebari yes but in the mind time I need to see how healthy it is and will like to root some cuttings.
Wizeeerrrddd
Mame
Let it grow for now, I would prefer it to be taken back 1 or 2 nodes overall. Looks like you could remove a few branches to suit which ever angle you choose as well
You could just start to ramify it the size it is now though and add some guide wire.
Driftwood
Mame
Perhaps is better to cut it back to 1 node after the first leave has hardened?
Wizeeerrrddd
Mame
Yeah best to try one but I would not cut the whole tree at once either. Start on the crown and leave the bottom branches for the time being.
Driftwood
Mame
Yea I better start pruning the crown and top branches this week while I can see properly what I'm doing.. I'm a bit nervous to prune to 1 node without leaves though.
Wizeeerrrddd
Mame
The longer you leave it the harder it will be to style. The crown looks healthy enough to prune back 2 nodes in my eyes after the leaves harden.
You have more then enough branches to work with and style the pads over time but wait till next year or the year after before you start removing whole branches.
Remember you have to learn how fast your lower branches are growing in relation to the crown, so you get a more balanced look as they grow together.
So they ramify at similar rates. Cutting back the crown would give you some indication of this with this years growth.
Think I’ve given similar advice to what’s been said.
You have more then enough branches to work with and style the pads over time but wait till next year or the year after before you start removing whole branches.
Remember you have to learn how fast your lower branches are growing in relation to the crown, so you get a more balanced look as they grow together.
So they ramify at similar rates. Cutting back the crown would give you some indication of this with this years growth.
Think I’ve given similar advice to what’s been said.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I don't know that this is passed a prime.
Seems it was neglected then all the good low branches died off. Now the tops and outsides of all that is taking over.
The opposite of what you need.
Seems it has been left this way for some time, and this is the year the trunk gets reverse taper.
Up until now, the branches have been growing their way in order to make this reverse taper a thing.
Basically....
I'd cut more than the crown.
You need a solid, mathematical, in depth 20 year plan.
Seems healthy enough to cut now.
My biggest fear is....the trunks DO need a whacking.
Unless this lack of taper is ok, and, for this clump.....I reckon it is.
Sorce
Wizeeerrrddd
Mame
@Diftwood
Also I can see why you would choose this as the front as it does have a loose overall style but it is a bit leggy and i'm seeing some wire marks which could be removed.
A little idea for the possible pads if it makes sense to you (best to A and B between the images), you would still have to cut back and thin the branches out to stop some taper issues specially at the top where the clump of apex branches are but maybe you could hide taper in the foliage
I do like the front but in my opinion the other angles are more interesting theyd just require more work.
Also I can see why you would choose this as the front as it does have a loose overall style but it is a bit leggy and i'm seeing some wire marks which could be removed.
A little idea for the possible pads if it makes sense to you (best to A and B between the images), you would still have to cut back and thin the branches out to stop some taper issues specially at the top where the clump of apex branches are but maybe you could hide taper in the foliage
I do like the front but in my opinion the other angles are more interesting theyd just require more work.
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Driftwood
Mame
You are right about been a bit leggy and wiremarks, although I have a tendency to keep the precious front, I have not decided yet keeping my mind open.. Any way the bottom and back need some strenghten.
Thank you for taking time drawing pads that's great!
About pruning the crown I just found this comments from Osoyoung and MACH5:
Pruning JM for back budding question.
If you prune some branches back in the early spring so there are no visible buds on some branches in order to get new ones to form at internodes, do you let the strong growth from last years buds grow unabated? Or do you prune that back to redirect energy toward making new buds pop? I’m getting...
