RickMartin
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Im so confused..just want to get my trees healthy. Should i keep them in the shade.
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coh
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For now, give them limited (morning is fine) sun, keep them out of the wind, and see what happens. I don't think bags are necessary. Fertilizer, probably doesn't make much difference. Keep them watered but not soaking wet. Let us know when you start seeing new growth.
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RickMartin
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Thanks everyone for your help.
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coh
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For what it's worth, though, I'll add that I'm not in the "don't fertilize a sick or recently repotted tree" camp. I'll fertilize with light doses but on a regular schedule until I see evidence of new growth.
coh
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Did anyone say not to mist? If so, I must have "mist" it. I don't see how doing that could cause any problems, whether it helps is another matter. I wouldn't put it in a bag, though
Thank you. Maybe didn't but the talk was developing that way somehow... wind...sun...morning sun...watering... misting...bag...aquarium... and then your suggestions without mentioning misting. One more thank you, now it's cleare.
LanceMac10
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I do mist newly potted conifers, JBP as well....not sure of it's efficacy, but I don't think it hurts. As long as you don't do it at the end of the day/ or at night.
Never put a "bag" over a tree and I'm pretty sure I never will.....
Never put a "bag" over a tree and I'm pretty sure I never will.....
RickMartin
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That could be my fault. I thought i seen in another thread where someone said not to mist JBP. I could have read it wrong, and if i did im sorry for the confusion
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No problem, coh provided some complex "what to do", but didn't mention misting. Now we know it's good.
I'm reading all these JBP & JWP threads, because didn't have a luck with them in the past. Now 1 new JWP dead and 2 new JBPs + seedlings doing fine... In another thread someone mentioned JBP acquired in bad soil. Yeah, the origin and the right time of season when delivered is important. Fingers crossed.
I'm reading all these JBP & JWP threads, because didn't have a luck with them in the past. Now 1 new JWP dead and 2 new JBPs + seedlings doing fine... In another thread someone mentioned JBP acquired in bad soil. Yeah, the origin and the right time of season when delivered is important. Fingers crossed.
aframe
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The best bet in nursing back to health is providing good care and positioning:
good direct sun exposure, protection from intense heat at the root zone (stucco walls and concrete patios can produce temps much higher than the forecasted air temp), protection from intense mid-day thru evening sun in the form of shade cloth or dappled light if temps are excessive. Misting the foliage is a great way to prevent desiccation during the day time. Supplementing water with a trusted root enhancer is good idea as opposed to heavy feeding.
JBP can be tolerant of temperature variations when established, but the tree will experience shock if it had been living between 40-60 deg, then thrust into and environment where nights are 30s and days are 90s, or nights are 70 and days are 90+... Your seedlings, if they're not dead already, will need to acclimate before they become vigorous. Find a place to set them where they'll receive consistent light exposure and temperature. If the root zone gets hot, expect the trees to die.
RickMartin
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They are in colunders so temps should remain constant
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RickMartin
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Best closeup of the needles i could get
0soyoung
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Get a meat thermometer probe and stick it in the soil among the roots. You will see for yourself just how right/wrong you are.
RickMartin
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Then it doesnt look like im going to be able to grow them down here..the weird thing is my mugo i brought from michigan is doing great. I will do my best to keep them alive and get them healthy, but if they die thats it for JBP for me.
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RickMartin
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What should soil temp be, a little cooler than ambient temp?
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RickMartin
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Ok just measured ambient and soil temp. ambient temp is 94 degrees F and soil temp at the roots is 76 degrees F. Is this to hot for the roots.
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Rick,
JBP are a better fit for your climate than Mugo. If these JBP die, it's not because of your climate, it's because you got bare tooted trees too late in the season. Don't blame the species for that.
Truely, if you are somewhat of a beginner with pines, I would suggest starting with something a little more established. George Muranaka sell ground grown JBP that have decent trunks, and low branches for about $100. These you would find much more satisfying to work on. The small seedlings you bought need a decade of growing.
RickMartin
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Im not blaming the species.im blaming my ability to care for them. I think they are a beautiful tree.. and i want one really bad, but i dont want to kill anymore either. Maybe im just getting bad stock.
Rick
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