Japanese Flowering Quince cuttings in training.

[bonhe]

The " Toyo Nishiki" Improved strain from Evergreen has multicolour blooms that vary with the season and condition of the plant! By this I mean that each year there appear to be subtle differences in display! Also the flowers seem to have more intensity as the plants become more established. I believe the multicolour branching is a result of grafting and the colours are restricted to the grafted branch. White on the white branch, pink on the pink, red and white on the red and white branch. At least that has been my experience and observations with the strain so far! Hope this information helps.

Thanks for letting us know, As your description, Brent’s and mine are probably the same, but it should not have a graft at all. In my experience, the branch with red flowers , will always have red flowers; in contrast if branches have different kind of flowers, it may also have red flower in those branches. The red flower are much stronger than the other colors. It is why when I do air layers, I choose the branch with different colors except red.








And you are absolutely correct . The health of the tree, the temperature, humidity all affect to the red color tone.
Like this tree which I airlayered last August, today it has 1st flower: white and pink petals. It should be red instead of pink



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[River's Edge]

Thanks for letting us know, As your description, Brent’s and mine are probably the same, but it should not have a graft at all. In my experience, the branch with red flowers , will always have red flowers; in contrast if branches have different kind of flowers, it may also have red flower in those branches. The red flower are much stronger than the other colors. It is why when I do air layers, I choose the branch with different colors except red.
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And you are absolutely correct . The health of the tree, the temperature, humidity all affect to the red color tone.
Like this tree which I airlayered last August, today it has 1st flower: white and pink petals. It should be red instead of pink
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Thank you for the affirmation. Genetic dominance of darker colours is common. Good thought to keep in mind for propagation and cuttings! Fortunately quince respond well to cutting propagation. Selecting a particular cultivar can be very rewarding! For example I have a cultivar from Michael Hagedorn of a Chojubai with rough grey bark! Adds a very nice element to the age appearance when developing the Bonsai. Only one of his Chojubai exhibits this characteristic along with the small deep red flowers! As one of his students years ago I was fortunate to receive a cutting of this plant.
Please keep posting your floral beauties, they are inspiring.

 

[bonhe]

Thank you for the affirmation. Genetic dominance of darker colours is common. Good thought to keep in mind for propagation and cuttings! Fortunately quince respond well to cutting propagation. Selecting a particular cultivar can be very rewarding!

You are very welcome.
Yes, quince is easy to propagate via cutting, but with SMS, I don’t do cutting. The reason is that I have to pick and choose the branch with not only good flower quality but nice shape. To get this kind of branch, I have to wait 2-3 years to start propagate. By that time, the branch diameter is too big to get cutting successfully. Because of that, I use airlayering which is much safer. With other quince, yes, cutting is much faster to propagate because they have only one type of flower.
I am still in process of learning about the SMS characteristics. It has many things to learn and to understand!
P/s : one of my friends will send me a cork Chojubai cutting this Fall
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[River's Edge]

You are very welcome.
Yes, quince is easy to propagate via cutting, but with SMS, I don’t do cutting. The reason is that I have to pick and choose the branch with not only good flower quality but nice shape. To get this kind of branch, I have to wait 2-3 years to start propagate. By that time, the branch diameter is too big to get cutting successfully. Because of that, I use airlayering which is much safer. With other quince, yes, cutting is much faster to propagate because they have only one type of flower.
I am still in process of learning about the SMS characteristics. It has many things to learn and to understand!
P/s : one of my friends will send me a cork Chojubai cutting this Fall
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Wonderful, it is great to have a network of friends. I find it very interesting to trace the original growers of certain cultivars and how they happen to spread out over time and geography. It is not unusual to find white tags in repotting that originate from growers other than the source I obtained the plant from. For example my guess would be that the original owner of Lone Pine was very good at propagation, His product seems to have spread throughout that region of California. Twenty years ago they must have had a pretty co-operative network within the small number of growers.

For the Cork Bark Chojubai I have found the distinctive grey appearance does not usually begin until several years after the cutting is struck. The cork bark appearance follows much later. Thus for me at least carefully marking the cutting to ensure I do not mix with regular Chojubai is important. This could be due to advancing age

With your method of airlayer than the risk of confusion is much lower as individual potting would begin right after separation. This also allows for some wiring or shaping with clip and grow prior to air layer speeding development. Have you experimented with root cuttings for propagation of quince when repotting? I understand they root easily that way and this provides the possibility of introducing low movement without wiring.
Looking forward to your continuing posts. Thank you!

 

[bonhe]

Wonderful, it is great to have a network of friends. I find it very interesting to trace the original growers of certain cultivars and how they happen to spread out over time and geography. It is not unusual to find white tags in repotting that originate from growers other than the source I obtained the plant from. For example my guess would be that the original owner of Lone Pine was very good at propagation, His product seems to have spread throughout that region of California. Twenty years ago they must have had a pretty co-operative network within the small number of growers.

For the Cork Bark Chojubai I have found the distinctive grey appearance does not usually begin until several years after the cutting is struck. The cork bark appearance follows much later. Thus for me at least carefully marking the cutting to ensure I do not mix with regular Chojubai is important. This could be due to advancing age

With your method of airlayer than the risk of confusion is much lower as individual potting would begin right after separation. This also allows for some wiring or shaping with clip and grow prior to air layer speeding development. Have you experimented with root cuttings for propagation of quince when repotting? I understand they root easily that way and this provides the possibility of introducing low movement without wiring.
Looking forward to your continuing posts. Thank you!

It is my pleasure and thanks for your information.
No, I have never tried to do root cutting, If I remember, I will try one in the next repotting. Thanks for suggesting
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[bonhe]

This SMS was airlayered in August 2018. It was transplanted to the current pot in winter 2019. Today it has a special flower to which I have been waiting for over 2 years!!









Its back


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[bonhe]

The one in # 501 is today. It is interesting!





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[bonhe]

This SMS was airlayered in August 2019.
Its first flower





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[bonhe]

It is hot and dry here now. The plants are in the smaller pots showed sign of dehydration with the wilted young shoots . To continue keeping these in full sun, I let them sit into the water container. It works really well. No more dehydration sign! The trees seem to enjoy it.






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[bonhe]

This one have some flowers now




I really like its yellow anthers contrasted to bright red petals background


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[Wildom]

Hi Bonhe,

Your quince flowers are awesome.
I live in Tustin, and was wondering if you your cuttings or any of your plants?
I especially like your pink/orange one on p.24 #465.
Thanks.

 

[Wildom]

Typo, I was asking if you sell your cuttings.
Thanks.

 

[bonhe]

Typo, I was asking if you sell your cuttings.
Thanks.

Hi Wildon,
Thanks for asking . Not at this time !
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[bonhe]

This morning I brought this one out for some works. It was airlayered from its mom about 5 years ago. I did not do much since then.


After initial pruning


After wiring and bending some branches




I plan to transplant it to the clay pot this fall
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[Wildom]

OK, thanks bonhe.
Please let me know if you have some available in the future.

 

[bonhe]

OK, thanks bonhe.
Please let me know if you have some available in the future.

You are welcome. I will let you know.
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[bonhe]

It is 100 F in my area at this time. This SMS is blooming ! The hot dry weather affects the flowers: they looks thinner and less compact.
The tree was few days ago.


one day later


Then


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[bonhe]

This one was air-layered last August. Some branches still don't have any leaves at this time! Dead?


Scratch test is OK with green area beneath the bark.


The tree is not probably quite back to good health yet! I had to move it to the area with morning sun only. Let see what happens.
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[bonhe]

I had done an experiment on SMS . The result is burning roots which showed on their leaves!

On 6/28/20 I removed all of its leaves and

2 weeks later it had new buds. This morning it shows healthy leaves with new shoots


because of good effect, I brought others out to defoliate them. These were Onlypruned back on 6/28/20
Before


after

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[bonhe]

Before &



The last one looks untidy, but it can be transformed to the nice shape in no time! it is the name of the game !
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