Introduction.

[Frozentreehugger]

Red neck red arms and fish belly white everywhere else My understanding is started as farmers or oil industry workers came to represent the blue collar working class who spent there time working and or playing hard in the sun compared to working In air conditioning and playing sitting in the shade height Caller upper class. Or as comedian Jeff fox worthy says a glorious lack of sophistication got me pegged

 

[HorseloverFat]

Pre-colonialism...

Cultures were either "Hunters Gatherers" and used the SOLAR calendar...

or "Agricultural Societies" which used the LUNAR..

My point..

We should ALL be "Rednecks"

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

What if only your left arm is red?

 

[Cajunrider]

What if only your left arm is red?

Confucius said: “Man with only red left arm took too much one handed pleasure.”

Btw @HorseloverFat is responsible for bringing Confucius here.

 

[Frozentreehugger]

What if only your left arm is red?

Truck driver qualifies

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Straight tree dies young becomes planks . Bent tree lives long becomes bonsai

 

[Cajunrider]

Truck driver qualifies

I know that. Used to be a delivery driver myself. However, I like the one handed pleasure answer better.

 

[HorseloverFat]

What if only your left arm is red?

Lots of driving... Continental American driving.

Wait... not sure if that's true!

 

[HorseloverFat]

What if only your left arm is red?

Then you are using the tanning booth incorrectly.

 

[HorseloverFat]

What if only your left arm is red?

7 and 2 didn't finishing painting you before the Queen showed up and now they're hiding.

 

[HorseloverFat]

I know that. Used to be a delivery driver myself. However, I like the one handed pleasure answer better.

You only need one hand?

 

[Cajunrider]

You only need one hand?

My love ain’t equestrian like yours!

 

[Frozentreehugger]

Collected common needle juniper fairly difficult traditional to establish in a pot so hopefully feel optimistic have a fair bit of roots and lots of healthy foliage

 

[Frozentreehugger]

@HorseloverFat I think this is a better place for the hardiness conversation . Don’t want my bro Cajun mad at me . Thanks for the complement but I’m no expert . Just think we sometimes don’t consider all the variables. And like others only learn from mistakes . As I said have not read Heresy . I’m interested as according to what people say here his opinions are somewhat controversial . I am and always was a fan of Nick Lenz also controversial in the early days . What I was getting at about hardiness is a lot more than winter involved . I think root temp in pots other than winter is heavily overlooked . Can be great for us northerners pot warns up faster and earlier in the spring . Then the ground . . My failures with hemlock in the past has lead me to thoughts on positives and negatives of summer pot temp .

 

[HorseloverFat]

@HorseloverFat I think this is a better place for the hardiness conversation . Don’t want my bro Cajun mad at me . Thanks for the complement but I’m no expert . Just think we sometimes don’t consider all the variables. And like others only learn from mistakes . As I said have not read Heresy . I’m interested as according to what people say here his opinions are somewhat controversial . I am and always was a fan of Nick Lenz also controversial in the early days . What I was getting at about hardiness is a lot more than winter involved . I think root temp in pots other than winter is heavily overlooked . Can be great for us northerners pot warns up faster and earlier in the spring . Then the ground . . My failures with hemlock in the past has lead me to thoughts on positives and negatives of summer pot temp .

This is further tangent-split by container material, and even more importantly; substrate composition.

Roots in "bonsai" pots with inorganic soil, experience temps at (or potentially, easily hotter in summer) around air temps.

Roots in plastic nursery containers, In inorganic soil have a buffer due to insulating properties as well as less heat retention on the container.

Not that one is BETTER than the other.. I just think it's important to know.

Discussion, shared knowledge and comparison of experience will make us all "experts"..... EVENTUALLY.

 

[ShadyStump]

Red neck red arms and fish belly white everywhere else My understanding is started as farmers or oil industry workers came to represent the blue collar working class who spent there time working and or playing hard in the sun compared to working In air conditioning and playing sitting in the shade height Caller upper class. Or as comedian Jeff fox worthy says a glorious lack of sophistication got me pegged

Actually...

 

[HorseloverFat]

Actually...

NICE!!!

That is FANTASTIC... I must've JUST studied the societal slang when it came to North America..

This information is FASCINATING.

Thank you, so much, for sharing.

 

[HorseloverFat]

(I will NOW, from here on out, say "Redneck" in a Scottish Accent!)

 

[HorseloverFat]

Jeff Foxworthy: If you find yourself sympathetic to the views of orthodox Scottland.. You might be a Redneck!

 

[ShadyStump]

NICE!!!

That is FANTASTIC... I must've JUST studied the societal slang when it came to North America..

This information is FASCINATING.

Thank you, so much, for sharing.

I thought you'd appreciate that.
Not the video I learned it from, but much more succinct. I'm pretty sure it was one of the Simon Whistler channelson YouTube I watched. I highly recommend EVERYTHING he's part of, whether or not I know of it yet.

BTW, you should really find his one on the origin of the F-bomb. Hilariously fascinating. Don't watch with kids around. Or do. It is educational after all.