How to be a successful bonsai beginner

Hi peeps! First post.
Haven't created a bonsai yet but do own a small store bought ficus that I have had about 3 years.
I saw a short video on bonsai and the grower was maintaining some beautiful azaleas and it piqued my interest.
From there, I watched another couple of informative videos and I was smitten.
I went out and carefully selected an azalea and intend to try my hand.
I live in Houston and was wondering if now is a good time to start the process on this bush?
I will be perusing the resources threads.
Thanks in advance.
 
Hi peeps! First post.
Haven't created a bonsai yet but do own a small store bought ficus that I have had about 3 years.
I saw a short video on bonsai and the grower was maintaining some beautiful azaleas and it piqued my interest.
From there, I watched another couple of informative videos and I was smitten.
I went out and carefully selected an azalea and intend to try my hand.
I live in Houston and was wondering if now is a good time to start the process on this bush?
I will be perusing the resources threads.
Thanks in advance.
If you're in Houston and interested in bonsai, it's worth joining the local club. The Houston club just hosted our own Sergio Cuan who did a demo on a collected cedar elm a couple of weeks ago.

Their Facebook page says they're having their members-only club auction on April 2...Club auctions are one of the BEST sources for all kinds of stuff, trees, soils, pots, tools, and yeah, even expertise if you get to know members. The cedar elm Sergio worked on is apparently included in the auction.

 
Bah, I'm The Smarter Person in the world. Here's what I, The Smartest Person In The World, did.
  1. Went online and spend a "couple" of hundreds on several "bonsai" trees from a guy in a car.
  2. Proceed to repot them Peter-Chen style. In the middle of the summer, mind you.
  3. Juniper roots are delicate? Bah. Hose them with abandon, say I!
  4. Wire and prune them aggresively. They do look awesome!
  5. Watch them die one by one in a couple of weeks.
Don't let anybody else tell you what you do when you are The Smartest Person In The World.

(Since now I've abandoned my former title, I went back to basics and I'm learning basic horticultural principles. Never been a garden type before, I'm enjoying the process very much.)
 
Bah, I'm The Smarter Person in the world. Here's what I, The Smartest Person In The World, did.
  1. Went online and spend a "couple" of hundreds on several "bonsai" trees from a guy in a car.
  2. Proceed to repot them Peter-Chen style. In the middle of the summer, mind you.
  3. Juniper roots are delicate? Bah. Hose them with abandon, say I!
  4. Wire and prune them aggresively. They do look awesome!
  5. Watch them die one by one in a couple of weeks.
Don't let anybody else tell you what you do when you are The Smartest Person In The World.

(Since now I've abandoned my former title, I went back to basics and I'm learning basic horticultural principles. Never been a garden type before, I'm enjoying the process very much.)
Then i must omnipotent Because i bought a book. 🤣
 
Bah, I'm The Smarter Person in the world. Here's what I, The Smartest Person In The World, did.
  1. Went online and spend a "couple" of hundreds on several "bonsai" trees from a guy in a car.
  2. Proceed to repot them Peter-Chen style. In the middle of the summer, mind you.
  3. Juniper roots are delicate? Bah. Hose them with abandon, say I!
  4. Wire and prune them aggresively. They do look awesome!
  5. Watch them die one by one in a couple of weeks.
Don't let anybody else tell you what you do when you are The Smartest Person In The World.

(Since now I've abandoned my former title, I went back to basics and I'm learning basic horticultural principles. Never been a garden type before, I'm enjoying the process very much.)
LOL, thanks for the laugh this morning! They say if you haven't killed a tree you aren't doing bonsai so there you go. At least you've got the humility and wherewithal to learn from your mistakes, that's the most important thing!

Also, don't forget to fill out your geographic info on your signature so the fine folks of Bnut can help answer any questions you might have. Good luck!
 
Hi peeps! First post.
Haven't created a bonsai yet but do own a small store bought ficus that I have had about 3 years.
I saw a short video on bonsai and the grower was maintaining some beautiful azaleas and it piqued my interest.
From there, I watched another couple of informative videos and I was smitten.
I went out and carefully selected an azalea and intend to try my hand.
I live in Houston and was wondering if now is a good time to start the process on this bush?
I will be perusing the resources threads.
Thanks in advance.
You should totally check out Quality Feed on N. Main St. and also Timeless Trees Bonsai Nursery (fridays and saturdays), they got all your bonsai needs within our area! The houston bonsai group can also be helpful if you need to know more.
 
I'm always on the lookout for inexpensive potential bonsais - even among the garden plants I have in the backyard!
Same. I seem to be amassing basically two types of trees so far - the inexpensive of all sizes and the not-so-inexpensive starter material from reputable places. By and large, the inexpensive tend to be my guinea pigs. These are the discount big box trees that are under $20. Although I grow attached to them and want to see them develop, some simply succumb to my abuse. Most have thus far made it and gave me a much better feel for the art. I take it slower and more conservative with the more expensive starter material.

Trees in the wild provide for good practice as well. You can wire, prune, air layer whatever without concern and simply observe the results of your actions.
 
Same. I seem to be amassing basically two types of trees so far - the inexpensive of all sizes and the not-so-inexpensive starter material from reputable places. By and large, the inexpensive tend to be my guinea pigs. These are the discount big box trees that are under $20. Although I grow attached to them and want to see them develop, some simply succumb to my abuse. Most have thus far made it and gave me a much better feel for the art. I take it slower and more conservative with the more expensive starter material.

Trees in the wild provide for good practice as well. You can wire, prune, air layer whatever without concern and simply observe the results of your actions.
I still have a couple Jacarandas from a bonsai kit that make great science experiments. They take well to being chopped and I'm currently growing one out to be shohin sized.

They back bud within days of being chopped when they are growing. It's crazy.
 
After a successful first year on my bonsai Journey I want to give Kudos to the following people that helped me on this forum (Smoke, Adair, Bonsainut, Bonhe, M5 and Leo) you guys are the best.
Taking care of bonsai here in Central Valley is no joke (105-110 avg in Summer), started with 3 bonsai then i didnt realize I already have more than 50. But everything survive and having a blast this spring.

Dont forget to ask question guys ! and dont forget to use the search feature majority of the issues on Bonsai are already answer here.

Thanks
Chris
 
LOL, thanks for the laugh this morning! They say if you haven't killed a tree you aren't doing bonsai so there you go. At least you've got the humility and wherewithal to learn from your mistakes, that's the most important thing!

Also, don't forget to fill out your geographic info on your signature so the fine folks of Bnut can help answer any questions you might have. Good luck!
Humility? Mistakes? I don't know what you are talking about.

Good tip about my signature. I'll do.
 
I want to mention that @rockm most clearly mentioned the fact that different techniques are used for bonsai in different phases of development.

Starting from seed, take many years, easily more than 5 years, during this "nurseryman's phase" of raising bonsai, you learn and use very few bonsai techniques. It is mostly tree nursery horticulture.

Taking nursery stock that may have 5 to 25 years of growth, and bringing it thru the steps to become pre-bonsai ready for it's first real styling, again is a narrow, limited number of bonsai techniques. Different from the techniques for seedlings, but no where near the full repertoire of bonsai techniques. Nursery stock can only teach you so much. Landscape trees harvested from an urban or suburban setting still fall into the nursery stock category. "Urban-yamadori" are still just older nursery stock, they are not the equivalent of wild collected trees.

Yamadori, by which I literally mean trees collected from the mountains. And forest collected trees need a different set of bonsai related skills. Handing century old, wild collected stock is a specialized skill set that is very much a part of bonsai.

Trees that have been grown for bonsai, then go through a series of being styled, then allowed to grow out. Then styled again, then allowed to grow out. This is the transition from pre- bonsai to bonsai. When I use the term bonsai, I mean the tree is ready to display at a local club level show. Here the largest number of bonsai techniques comes in to play. There are many techniques that don't get used until a tree is near show ready..

Then there are exhibition quality trees, these are at the higher level of refinement. Good enough to take ribbons and or prides at the local level and on the way toward becoming a top level tree. There are a series of techniques that get used here that would never be seen used on a less developed tree.

Finally there are "post exhibition quality" trees. Here the trees have matured past the effectiveness of the style they had been trained toward. Here the trees are in need of complete restyling, a new and different vision need to be imposed. This is actually one of the areas of expertise that Kimura was known for.

Now if you, as a beginner want to learn all bonsai has to offer, you need one or more trees in each of these phases of development. You will never learn the advanced techniques if you only start with inexpensive nursery stock. True given enough time, nursery stock can move through all these phases, but it will take decades to get there.

As a beginner, make a 5 year plan. Learn the horticulture. Learn about initial training of nursery stock. Then plan for the purchase of advanced materials by the time you have been in the hobby 5 years. You don't need a bunch of advanced trees, but you should get at least one tree that is near exhibition quality. This will be the tree that teaches you the "real art" of bonsai techniques. You will need to learn display techniques. You will have to learn the refinement techniques. Owning an advanced tree will force you to stretch your skills.

Don't doom yourself to being a perpetual beginner, by sticking with only nursey stock. Branch out get at least one yamadori, at least one more advanced tree, and by watching for club auctions, look for "post exhibition" quality trees. Bonsai hobbyist "of a certain age" may auction or sell off their collection. Be ready to jump on a sale. This is an excellent time to get an advanced tree without spending a fortune.

So diversify your collection. Not with a large number of species, but rather with trees of a range of stages of development. Only this will teach you the "whole Art of Bonsai".

I really appreciate this. As a beginner, who like many I'm sure who are prowling for nursery stock and hacking the shit out of it left and right, I've realized, FINALLY, that this sacrificial practice should only last so long before the books/research and what you talked about here need to begin. I just ordered the ABS basic bonsai design book from their site today and look forward to that read.

I do have quite a bit of experience keeping cacti (hell I even have my own YouTube channel dedicated to them!) and houseplants, and understand different soils. That said, I have dropped that mindset and the cactus ego and on a path to submitting to the art of bonsai.

What I need to figure out are things like:

- I have a pair of a bit older juniper nursery stock I haven't done anything with yet...do I practice patience, clean them and work toward beefing them up with a quality repot only for a year or more?

- Are nursery stock better grown up in better bonsai mix, or a denser not-so bonsai mix of good quality?

These answers I'm sure I will find in good time on this forum, just thought I'd share a bit of mindset and appreciation for your post. I hope it helps others slow down and course correct a bit, too!

Chris
 
I really appreciate this. As a beginner, who like many I'm sure who are prowling for nursery stock and hacking the shit out of it left and right, I've realized, FINALLY, that this sacrificial practice should only last so long before the books/research and what you talked about here need to begin. I just ordered the ABS basic bonsai design book from their site today and look forward to that read.

I do have quite a bit of experience keeping cacti (hell I even have my own YouTube channel dedicated to them!) and houseplants, and understand different soils. That said, I have dropped that mindset and the cactus ego and on a path to submitting to the art of bonsai.

What I need to figure out are things like:

- I have a pair of a bit older juniper nursery stock I haven't done anything with yet...do I practice patience, clean them and work toward beefing them up with a quality repot only for a year or more?

- Are nursery stock better grown up in better bonsai mix, or a denser not-so bonsai mix of good quality?

These answers I'm sure I will find in good time on this forum, just thought I'd share a bit of mindset and appreciation for your post. I hope it helps others slow down and course correct a bit, too!

Chris

Hey Chris
Glad you liked my "little essay".

You are in Maryland, there is an active bonsai "scene" in Baltimore and in DC, and I'm sure you can find smaller clubs even if you are on the "Del-Mar Peninsula" in Chestertown, or Cambridge or Pocomoke or maybe Annapolis. At any rate the National Bonsai Collection at the National Arboretum in DC is a MUST SEE, and should be a regular stop in your wanderings over the course of a year. Nothing beats seeing bonsai being created in front of you, attending club meetings, most clubs encourage attending a few times without having to join. Join if you like the people you meet. Workshops and demos are great opportunities, and clubs make those possible. Follow the club websites. Follow the website for the National Bonsai Collection. so look up local bonsai clubs, they are very valuable resources, there is almost no where in Maryland that is more than a 2 hour drive from one or more bonsai clubs. I have 2 bonsai clubs within an hour drive of my house and a third about 90 minutes from me, I watch all 3 for who they have coming as speakers, and workshops and demos.

Put a link to your cactus YouTube videos in your profile. Many members here are into a variety of other hobbies, and we occasionally share. Cactus flowers definitely belong in the "Flowers 2022" thread, and the the "Tea House" you can certainly start threads on cactus plants. And Boswellia, Bursera, Comiphora, and others all are "fair game" as legitimate bonsai. Though I have always had trouble with "inverse taper" on my Bursera.

So don't be shy, share your cacti.

Quick note: for the sake of your Junipers - not sure I read your note correctly, - Once you have them in a good quality bonsai media, such as a predominately pumice based media, young junipers are only repotted maybe every other or every 3rd year, and older junipers, maybe once every 5 to 10 years. Repotting yearly is something done to non-woody houseplants living in peat based soils. Most bonsai are repotted infrequently, unless there is a specific purpose. A maple might be repotted every year as part of a technique to keep leaf size small, but a maple that is still in development might only be repotted every 2nd or 3rd year. A pine might only be repotted every 5 years.

 
Hey Chris
Glad you liked my "little essay".

You are in Maryland, there is an active bonsai "scene" in Baltimore and in DC, and I'm sure you can find smaller clubs even if you are on the "Del-Mar Peninsula" in Chestertown, or Cambridge or Pocomoke or maybe Annapolis. At any rate the National Bonsai Collection at the National Arboretum in DC is a MUST SEE, and should be a regular stop in your wanderings over the course of a year. Nothing beats seeing bonsai being created in front of you, attending club meetings, most clubs encourage attending a few times without having to join. Join if you like the people you meet. Workshops and demos are great opportunities, and clubs make those possible. Follow the club websites. Follow the website for the National Bonsai Collection. so look up local bonsai clubs, they are very valuable resources, there is almost no where in Maryland that is more than a 2 hour drive from one or more bonsai clubs. I have 2 bonsai clubs within an hour drive of my house and a third about 90 minutes from me, I watch all 3 for who they have coming as speakers, and workshops and demos.

Put a link to your cactus YouTube videos in your profile. Many members here are into a variety of other hobbies, and we occasionally share. Cactus flowers definitely belong in the "Flowers 2022" thread, and the the "Tea House" you can certainly start threads on cactus plants. And Boswellia, Bursera, Comiphora, and others all are "fair game" as legitimate bonsai. Though I have always had trouble with "inverse taper" on my Bursera.

So don't be shy, share your cacti.

Quick note: for the sake of your Junipers - not sure I read your note correctly, - Once you have them in a good quality bonsai media, such as a predominately pumice based media, young junipers are only repotted maybe every other or every 3rd year, and older junipers, maybe once every 5 to 10 years. Repotting yearly is something done to non-woody houseplants living in peat based soils. Most bonsai are repotted infrequently, unless there is a specific purpose. A maple might be repotted every year as part of a technique to keep leaf size small, but a maple that is still in development might only be repotted every 2nd or 3rd year. A pine might only be repotted every 5 years.

Leo, this is all great information. I reached out to a club earlier today but will see what more is out there and check out the collection! My channel has been a bit inactive as of late as I just bought a house and am doing some work on it. Personally might not like to intertwine the two but we'll see... I'm originally from the Chicago suburbs so nice to talk to someone from those parts. I have a pair of pretty nice nana nursery stock, but I think they might have blight or something funky going on. Might wait a year and see what comes of them after a repot.

I'm trying to also not branch out tomorrow far with species so as not to overwhelm myself. I have the basic bonsai design book coming so I hope to learn a bit more academically, but also see what's out there or where to find different stages of plants so it's not just nursery stock.

Cheers!
 
After reading a lot of beginner threads on this site over the years, I am going to create a thread of advice about how to get the best start on your bonsai journey.

Simply put - take advantage of all of the people who have gone before you!

At some level there is a bit of skeptic in all of us, and we need to fight the urge to dive in and just start doing stuff because we are excited and we want to start growing trees NOW! And plus we are pretty smart, and self-confident and think "how hard can it be?" And so we fail. A lot. Meanwhile we are surrounded by people with a lot of experience who can look at what we just did and say "well I could have told you that wasn't going to work, because I made the same mistake 30 years ago!"

So focus on repeating other peoples' successes, instead of other peoples' failures.

Find someone with experience, and use their experience as your starting point. Try to learn everything they know - and master it, even if it takes you five or ten years. Don't be the person who spends 25 years learning what other people already know doesn't work - repeating all the mistakes they have already made. Once you become experienced, you can always try to improve upon processes, or techniques, or designs. But you are starting from a position of knowledge, instead of a position of ignorance.

This site can be an amazing resource. There are people here with decades of experience, including professionals who make a living in bonsai who come here to interact with people without asking for anything in return (except perhaps a little respect). Many members here have participated in national shows and won significant recognition for their work. Wouldn't it be better to start by trying to replicate their success, instead of striking out on your own?

Listen. Ask questions. Listen some more. And then try to do what they tell you... exactly. Only when you can replicate their success should you try to improve upon it. Don't try to run before you can walk. You waste years and years of time... and get frustrated along the way.
I'm so glad I found this forum!
 
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