Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
They are looking good!
Fonz's Black Pine contest entry
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Fonz
Chumono
Decided to put some bends in 15 of the better seedlings.
Gianfranco
Seed
Great post and pics 
what soil mix are you using? Thanks! G
what soil mix are you using? Thanks! G
Fonz
Chumono
Baked Danish clay mixed with some Kiryu, lava and zeolyte.Great post and pics
My next mix will probably be 40/40/20 akadama/pumice/lava
Gianfranco
Seed
Thank you Fonz, I am trying to avoid akadama/ japanese soils in my new mixes, I think experimenting how DE/ baked danish clay will perform instead (I've ordered some Sanicat Pink , lets see)
Fonz
Chumono
So I guess this is the end of growing season #2 in my part of the world.
I just sold 35 JBP's that didn't make it to the last round. All good pine seedlings but too much to grow with my limited space. Now I have 33 left that will go into year 3.
Since I live in Western Europe the are a lot smaller (but denser) than other people's pines in this contest. Still I'm pleased with the results so far.
Most of them are about 7-9 inches in height.
1. The "winner" batch. The ones in the clay pots are Mikawa's. No stem-cuttings done on them. Going to let them grow to be bigger trees.
2. My best one, the one I showed you in the previous post. Notice the increase in needle density.
3. Another one in which I already put a bend. Sacrifice branch is starting to elongate.
4. Not sure why I took a picture of this one. Probably because digital images don't cost a thing
I just sold 35 JBP's that didn't make it to the last round. All good pine seedlings but too much to grow with my limited space. Now I have 33 left that will go into year 3.
Since I live in Western Europe the are a lot smaller (but denser) than other people's pines in this contest. Still I'm pleased with the results so far.
Most of them are about 7-9 inches in height.
1. The "winner" batch. The ones in the clay pots are Mikawa's. No stem-cuttings done on them. Going to let them grow to be bigger trees.
2. My best one, the one I showed you in the previous post. Notice the increase in needle density.
3. Another one in which I already put a bend. Sacrifice branch is starting to elongate.
4. Not sure why I took a picture of this one. Probably because digital images don't cost a thing
rollwithak
Chumono
So I guess this is the end of growing season #2 in my part of the world.
I just sold 35 JBP's that didn't make it to the last round. All good pine seedlings but too much to grow with my limited space. Now I have 33 left that will go into year 3.
Since I live in Western Europe the are a lot smaller (but denser) than other people's pines in this contest. Still I'm pleased with the results so far.
Most of them are about 7-9 inches in height.
1. The "winner" batch. The ones in the clay pots are Mikawa's. No stem-cuttings done on them. Going to let them grow to be bigger trees.
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2. My best one, the one I showed you in the previous post. Notice the increase in needle density.
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3. Another one in which I already put a bend. Sacrifice branch is starting to elongate.
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4. Not sure why I took a picture of this one. Probably because digital images don't cost a thing
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Wicked plants man! Happy to see such results were achieved.
rollwithak
Chumono
Ok, next batch arrived. This one came from TreeSeeds.com. I ordered 50 seeds but got a bag with 700-800 seeds it seems. I guess the guys over at treeseeds.com are getting tired of counting all those JBP seeds we are ordering for the contest
This is what was in the enveloppe:
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I started counting them. Got to 100 (what's in the bag) and then gave up. F*cking A!
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That’s funny! I specifically asked for the instructions in the “delivery instruction space it provides, and they DIDNT send me the instructions LOL LOL LOL
rollwithak
Chumono
Fonz
Chumono
The seeds in this thread only started to sprout a few weeks after they were put in the ground. No fridge sprouters
rollwithak
Chumono
Can you explain "the cutting thing" I was under the impression that these were all grown from seed, but I'm realizing now that you are talking about cuttings. Feel free to shoot me a private message if you don't want to fill your post with this topic.
Fonz
Chumono
They all are from seed. But to get a better radial root spread the seedlings got a complete stem cutting.
I explained it all here on my beginners blog: https://shumibonsai.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/japanese-black-pine-from-seed-2018-seedling-cuttings/
I explained it all here on my beginners blog: https://shumibonsai.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/japanese-black-pine-from-seed-2018-seedling-cuttings/
rollwithak
Chumono
So would you say your cuttings or seedlings were the strongest?
Fonz
Chumono
The ones I didn't cut grew a bit stronger in the first season since they didnt have to put their energy in producing new roots. Now I can't really tell the difference.
rollwithak
Chumono
I'm curious, i know in your blog you showed that you used your bonsai mix under the sand.... Is it imparitive to use that for this stage of the process or is there a cheaper option one could use? Especially if I plan on making cuttings out of these....
Fonz
Chumono
For another batch I used a standard seedling starter potting soil bought at the local plant shop. They turned out just fine too
Fonz
Chumono
Alright, the last couple of days I spent 10 hours in total repotting my trees for the contest. 22 with twisted trunks, 4 with no wire and 1 neagari. 27 in total.
Wire is starting to bite in good on a couple ones already. Might redo the wiring so the lower part of the trunk fattens too (Thanx for the tip @dirk hoorelbeke ).
I also did 1 neagari project. Tried a couple last year with 1 year old seedlings but those failed. Maybe a 2 year old seedling is a bit stronger.
Wire is starting to bite in good on a couple ones already. Might redo the wiring so the lower part of the trunk fattens too (Thanx for the tip @dirk hoorelbeke ).
I also did 1 neagari project. Tried a couple last year with 1 year old seedlings but those failed. Maybe a 2 year old seedling is a bit stronger.
Fonz
Chumono
It looks like they took the repotting really well. Some are showing some big candles like most of you southerners had last year
Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
Nice job Fonz!
Mike Westervelt
Chumono
Nice work Sir, curious about how you treated the roots at this repotting? trimmed, combed out, etc.
