Failing Chinese Elm

We all got to start some where! Glad you joined up!
Hopefully you'll stick around... that's when the real fun will start... Then we will totally start making fun!:);) JK
For sure, I will. I'm learning tons from the different threads, plus getting some entertainment! I have a thick skin, so I'm prepared. Wait till I post a picture of my crazy Natal Plum. It looks like a jungle creature!
 
Lol, you are right Sorce, I misread her location! Thanks for straightening me out there.. No clue how well a Chinese Elm would do outdoors in Il, prolly need some protection for sure!
Yes, IL is quite different than AL. Can be 70 in Feb or 40 in May. The weather sucks. I'll see if I can't get it through the summer first........
 
I put a lot of indoor stuff outside for the first time this year...and most got kissed for a bit....
I reckon itll come back!

I have a brush cherry that is budding, and a natal Plum that is growing like a weed. Have had them inside for a year, and would be hesitant to put them out. Leo has been advising me on the tropical stuff .
 
...on the page 1 of your thread, someone mentioned the spider webs. Have you checked and removed it? It can be the warning - spider mites presence! And the reason of losing leaves.
 
...on the page 1 of your thread, someone mentioned the spider webs. Have you checked and removed it? It can be the warning - spider mites presence! And the reason of losing leaves.
Yikes, I am in FL, so I haven't been able to. But I have some Tempo at home that I spray my citrus trees and hibiscus with before I bring them in for the winter. It will kill any bug there is, but won't harm the plants. I work for a farm Service Company, so. Have access to chemicals not sold at HD or Wal-mart, and Crop Specialists to know what they do!
 
...on the page 1 of your thread, someone mentioned the spider webs. Have you checked and removed it? It can be the warning - spider mites presence! And the reason of losing leaves.
Yikes, I am in FL, so I haven't been able to. But I have some Tempo at home that I spray my citrus trees and hibiscus with before I bring them in for the winter. It will kill any bug there is, but won't harm the plants. I work for a farm Service Company, so. Have access to chemicals not sold at HD or Wal-mart, and Crop Specialists to know what they do!
 
Sorry about the double post, the internet here sucks.
 
Looks fine to me. As has been said, it looks like it either got scorched by the heat or shocked.

Try misting the trunk and leaves too. I've find my elms respond well when sprayed. I do live in Australia though so a different climate.

Good luck!
 
I'd be curious to know what's wrong with it too, doesn't look happy.

My Chinese elm gets cobwebs daily on it outside.. I do try to clear them but it's constant, everyday get more.. I see that I really should clear them more so because of those spider mites, I didn't think of that.
Yeh the soil, what is it and does the water drain out of it well when you water it rather heavily?
I think it's water related but it's just a hunch, I'm a beginner much the same as you.
 
:(Well back from FL, so here's an update. The good news, the house is still standing, the only evidence of the parties is the solo cups on the dining room table from beer pong, and my tropical are fine, the son watered them. The bad new is he swears I didn't tell him about the elm outside, which I did repeatedly. So Aaron, I think you were right, there were spider webs. So spider mites have contributed to it's down fall, but high 90's to 100 degrees for a week, did it in. So I have an extra pot. Judy, I have put small wooden skewers in all my trees to better monitor the watering, thanks. While I'm here, I bought a Japanese maple twig at Aldis a few years ago for a couple bucks and stuck it in the garden. Some of the other plants have taken over, and it needs to be moved. Is it too late to dig it up and stick it in a pot? I don't have any deciduous trees, so thought I might try one. Winters here are a crapshoot, some temperate, some cold as hell. I do have a garage that stays below freezing. Any advice or suggestions appreciated.
 
:(Well back from FL, so here's an update. The good news, the house is still standing, the only evidence of the parties is the solo cups on the dining room table from beer pong, and my tropical are fine, the son watered them. The bad new is he swears I didn't tell him about the elm outside, which I did repeatedly. So Aaron, I think you were right, there were spider webs. So spider mites have contributed to it's down fall, but high 90's to 100 degrees for a week, did it in. So I have an extra pot. Judy, I have put small wooden skewers in all my trees to better monitor the watering, thanks. While I'm here, I bought a Japanese maple twig at Aldis a few years ago for a couple bucks and stuck it in the garden. Some of the other plants have taken over, and it needs to be moved. Is it too late to dig it up and stick it in a pot? I don't have any deciduous trees, so thought I might try one. Winters here are a crapshoot, some temperate, some cold as hell. I do have a garage that stays below freezing. Any advice or suggestions appreciated.
WAY to late to dig a JM. Wait till next spring just before it leafs out. Until then it'll just keep growing and getting fatter! ;)

Aaron
 
OK, thought it was probably too late, thanks Aaron. Don't need to kill another one so soon.
 
OK, thought it was probably too late, thanks Aaron. Don't need to kill another one so soon.
Don't feel bad about killing a tree, anybody who says they do Bonsai and have never killed one is lying! Most of us have a nice "burn pile" lol at least you joined the forum, lots of helpful people here.

Aaron
 
Sorry to hear, but it happens. There are plenty of inexpensive starter bonsai out there, if you don't know about the FB .99 auctions you should check that out. I know that Don Blackmond has some boxwood starters, pretty nice trees. Elms are a good way to go to get into the whole thing as they grow fast and are hard to kill. Tell your son he owes you a tree! ;)
 
Sorry to hear, but it happens. There are plenty of inexpensive starter bonsai out there, if you don't know about the FB .99 auctions you should check that out. I know that Don Blackmond has some boxwood starters, pretty nice trees. Elms are a good way to go to get into the whole thing as they grow fast and are hard to kill. Tell your son he owes you a tree! ;)
Thanks. I did bid on one of his boxwoods on Ebay, but lost the bid. I'll keep looking. He did feel bad, at least he didn't kill the tropicals! I seem to do OK with them (so far) :)
 
Sorry to hear, but it happens. There are plenty of inexpensive starter bonsai out there, if you don't know about the FB .99 auctions you should check that out. I know that Don Blackmond has some boxwood starters, pretty nice trees. Elms are a good way to go to get into the whole thing as they grow fast and are hard to kill. Tell your son he owes you a tree! ;)

What's an FB .99 auction? I'm British so this might be more an American thing... Or maybe worldwide but more popular in US?
 
Hello Again. I left a reply for what its worth regarding spider mite on a Chinese Elm. This species is a fully deciduous tree. I have lost a few over the last 40 years or so. In nearly every case it was because I did not let it drop all its leaves and go fully into dormancy. I did try keeping them inside which killed the tree very quickly. I tried putting them outside for winter, but the shock killed some. I keep them outside all the time now and cover them with bubble wrap through very cold snaps. Ever since I did this I have not lost one. I also started using Blackjack in spring with great success , It seems excellent and goes a long way. During the summer I mist them morning and night. I wish anybody with a Chinese Elm well. I am not keen on the species personally. I find a Zelkova Serrata so much easier and adaptable. And I have had good results with defoliation too, managed to get small leaves. Also in so many cases the Chinese insist on a mandatory S shape !!
Regards Mitty.
 
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