wireme
Masterpiece
Super cool!
Credibility thread, this is where you get to post and shine.
- Thread starter Smoke
- Start date
PeaceLoveBonsai
Chumono
JBP ready for candles to be cut.
kale
Shohin
Just a boxwood for now. Still waiting on trees.
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Speaking of credibility:
Sunday at 9:49 AM
I have decided to go back into bonsaiNut seclusion. This is not a place I wish to post work to any longer, and in fact if it was in my power I would remove everything I have ever posted here. The forum is not capable of removing the person from the work, and the truth hurts people, I can understand. If you are unable to take a look at your self from my perspective and take the things I post with the intent written, I get it. This place is supposed to be about bonsai, bonsai work, not words or help me or what can I make from this. Look around, there are plenty of places to see bonsai, look at your plant, does it have the bones to make a bonsai, then throw it away when you actually see the difference. Stop busting everyone's chops with the pathetic dieing plants. Anyway I've already said too much, feelings are being hurt as I write....the truth....again!
Maybe I will see you at a show, I'll say hi.
Smoke
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
If you don't mind, post a tree to talk in this thread. If you have no tree, say bye. If you wish to post a tree and ask again, what's your point? This is a tree forum not a gossip site....grow up.
If you wish to blow off the what I asked for, the forum now knows this is personal and has nothing to with me, but is about your shortcomings.
If you wish to blow off the what I asked for, the forum now knows this is personal and has nothing to with me, but is about your shortcomings.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
I am not sure why you think I want you to stay out of my threads. I am here to discuss trees, which include my own. You have something to add to my trees, please do.
To stop further cluttering I moved the conversation over to the "show and tell" thread you made.
Some trees that have moved on to new owners:
leatherback
The Treedeemer
And some of my projects
From 2 y.o. seedling:
From a garden
From rough stock:
A first styling last christmas
From 2 y.o. seedling:
From a garden
From rough stock:
A first styling last christmas
KiwiPlantGuy
Omono
Hi,
I will give this a go. Only a few years in.
The blue spruce (Picea pungens Glauca) was planted in my boss’s field for some years (5-7), and been with me for 3 years and CB long way to go.
Charles
I will give this a go. Only a few years in.
The blue spruce (Picea pungens Glauca) was planted in my boss’s field for some years (5-7), and been with me for 3 years and CB long way to go.
Charles
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
I post this one often, anyway, its my favorite and I've worked it the most.. Twenty five years from first pic to second...
penumbra
Imperial Masterpiece
You are really full of crap. I almost never have a complaint ... except for you.
We don't have time for each other, yet here we are.
You are by far the most arrogant person on this site. Everyone knows it except you.
I will stop now, honestly I feel sorry for you.
I'm done.
VAFisher
Masterpiece
I think there are plenty of people posting good stuff and putting themselves out there for people to see. We're not all up to BVF, Mach or Judy level though. The problem is nobody really comments or discusses the trees. Everybody says they want to talk about trees but the reality is that's not the truth. We would rather go on for 200 pages about Trump or bitch about someone being a dick (as if that even matters on an internet forum). I keep my threads going for my own documentation purposes at this point - not because I think I'm going to receive any meaningful, constructive feedback. Not that anyone owes me anything either.
And another tree since I need one to comment in this thread. Black Hills Spruce I got from Don Blackmond a few years back. Originally an Andy Smith tree. I put it on this slab this year.
And another tree since I need one to comment in this thread. Black Hills Spruce I got from Don Blackmond a few years back. Originally an Andy Smith tree. I put it on this slab this year.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Don has been a great supporter of Bonsai in America. I bet we could have a long thread with just trees acquired from him over the years. This is super cool, love the slab.
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JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
As promised here are current of my 2 trees. The hackberry is a bit shaggy right now, the timing isn't quite there for cutback of growth tips. If you cut tips on these too early they don't give you side shoots on the branch, they just seem to want to grow one extension. So I wait till I start to see side shoot buds and then do cutback and defoliate if that is part of the yearly plan. These are things that you learn thru experience working on a tree for many years.
Forsoothe!
Imperial Masterpiece
One of the problems with this or any forum posting "art" is critiquing it. Gushing is perfectly acceptable, in fact groveling while gushing is even preferred. Much of what is posted needs work and needs serious discussion to establish the next level of excellence, but serious criticism only starts fights. Some of the people most qualified to comment productively are exactly the same people who don't know how to just offer technical advice without finding a way to condescendingly support their comments by name dropping or citing the uppity shows they have displayed in. Language designed to shut others up. In return, other people either take personal shots in defense or shut up. I myself enjoy creating virtual trees from the photos posted to offer alternatives, but I probably have more time than others.
Here's a nice Motherlode that doesn't photograph as well as it looks in person, not an unusual condition. One of the benefits of photos is that you get a different kind of look at your critters, as here.
The fix for this tree is for me to increase the definition of the foliage clouds so the space between is clearer. Here's an adjusted photo.
By tweaking it a tiny bit here and there I know where on the tree I need some strategic space to accentuate the positive and hide the negative. The amount of difference is negligible and too much space would be ugly. The operative word is "tweak".
Here's a nice Motherlode that doesn't photograph as well as it looks in person, not an unusual condition. One of the benefits of photos is that you get a different kind of look at your critters, as here.
The fix for this tree is for me to increase the definition of the foliage clouds so the space between is clearer. Here's an adjusted photo.
By tweaking it a tiny bit here and there I know where on the tree I need some strategic space to accentuate the positive and hide the negative. The amount of difference is negligible and too much space would be ugly. The operative word is "tweak".
leatherback
The Treedeemer
to be honest.. I do not see differences between the trees. could you explain what was done?
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
I don't find that this is the case here at Bnut. Perhaps you are speaking in general of other forums, or the online community at large. And I find your attitude towards showing trees as demeaning to the shows and those who show there.
wireme
Masterpiece
Actually the tendency to not take a poster seriously unless they can show nice trees does annoy me in this place, always has. More so than the opposite complaint of stubborn newbies arguing and not listening.
I do get it, sometimes circumstances in a thread do seem to call for a put up or shut up response but only rarely imo.
There can be many reasons why a person with plenty of skill and knowledge can’t currently show off impressive looking results.
Practicing for years but moving all over the country and constantly leaving collections behind or loosing them. Sudden loss of trees that had almost gotten somewhere due to unusual circumstances, it happens..
Somebody has plent knowledge and skill but no money or access to good starting material, it’s gonna take time..
Sometimes skilled and smart development doesn’t obviously look like it, all happening within an apparent mess.
Somebody may choose to peruse a path with a tree that will take 20 years to look very good instead of 5 years to have a decent result...
You get the idea, reasons abound, the list could go on and on...
Here’s my furthest along maple nebari, from seed. Another repot or two, 5-10 years from now I may be able to comment in maple nebari development threads eh?
I do get it, sometimes circumstances in a thread do seem to call for a put up or shut up response but only rarely imo.
There can be many reasons why a person with plenty of skill and knowledge can’t currently show off impressive looking results.
Practicing for years but moving all over the country and constantly leaving collections behind or loosing them. Sudden loss of trees that had almost gotten somewhere due to unusual circumstances, it happens..
Somebody has plent knowledge and skill but no money or access to good starting material, it’s gonna take time..
Sometimes skilled and smart development doesn’t obviously look like it, all happening within an apparent mess.
Somebody may choose to peruse a path with a tree that will take 20 years to look very good instead of 5 years to have a decent result...
You get the idea, reasons abound, the list could go on and on...
Here’s my furthest along maple nebari, from seed. Another repot or two, 5-10 years from now I may be able to comment in maple nebari development threads eh?
leatherback
The Treedeemer
@Forsoothe, I’m sure I’m the Last Person you want a critique from, but I want to critique this display on several levels, for the benefit of the other forum readers. If you care to benefit from it, too, all the better. If not, your loss.
First off, the display. Tons and tons of repeating elements. Square mat, square stand, square pot, square accent pot square accent jita. It’s just too much straight lines and hard angles.
Accent placement: I can’t really see where the trunk comes from out of the pot (heck, I can’t even see the trunk!), but the apex is over in the left. As is most of the mass of foliage. So, assuming the movement is from right to left, why is the accent on the right? It would be better placed on the left where your eye would move from the base of the trunk (if it could be seen) up to the top if the foliage mass, then follow the curve of the cascade branch down to the accent which stops the eye.
Stand: ive never before seen a pedestal stand used with bonsai in a display. Monkey poles in the garden, yes. As a formal display? I don’t remember ever seeing one before. It’s different, for sure. It’s certainly not “Japanese”. Feels more “Roman”.
The pot looks like a quality pot. I’m not a fan of tall cascade pots. But some are.
The tree. I’ve already mentioned I can’t see the trunk. You say it needs “tweaking”. Yes it does! Tweaks on steroids! It needs “styling”. To me, it looks like a ground cover juniper I can buy at any garden center, pulled out of the black plastic pot, and stuffed straight into that cascade pot. I see no evidence art, style, form, or anything.
I’m just calling it as I see it.
Here’s a cascade I’ve done:
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wireme
Masterpiece
hahaha, all valid points.
but.. time to clean and oil tools.. ?
Ah, ha ha!
Gotta find them out there in the “lawn” first!
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