GANGSTA!when you do collect, replant what you take..... follow the principles of yama modoshi
Yamadori & Yama modoshi
To me, one of my favorite places to get a bonsai, is from the wild. They often have more character, with more twists, bends and more mature bark, then some of the nursery trees. This is because the…okamotobonsai.com
Do NOT replant anything to replace things you collect. The species you replace it with is not of the same environment, could be a different subspecies or even different species. Local seeds will find their way on their own. They rarely have to be assisted in planting themselves. It's a false sense of satisfaction. You may, in fact, be doing more harm...Simply fill in the hole you left and dont' dig everything in sight.when you do collect, replant what you take..... follow the principles of yama modoshi
Yamadori & Yama modoshi
To me, one of my favorite places to get a bonsai, is from the wild. They often have more character, with more twists, bends and more mature bark, then some of the nursery trees. This is because the…okamotobonsai.com
as the article says, you replant the spot with cones and seeds you find in the area of the same species, not bringing anything foreign into the area. If all yamadori collectors did this, we wont become like japan which is essentially devoid of natural yamadori
Nope still not buying it. This is doubling down on intervention in the environment and a self-indulgent salve for your conscience. You've already taken something, yet feel compelled to dictate what should replace what you've taken. Nature doesn't need you. It will replace what you've taken with what IT wants. A vacancy in the wild is soon filled. There isn't a valid reason to search out and find a seed (if it's the right seed or not a local cultivar, etc.) Filling in the hole you've created is about as far as you should intrude after collecting a tree. Nature will take care of the rest. Plenty of other plants there to take the place.
ehm.. Considering the decades to centruries it takes to get anywhere near yamadori, I doubt replanting is the solution.
That kind of thinking is why we almost lost all our Buffalo
Our native Bison were nearly wiped out due to government policy of intentional slaughter. There is not a comparable policy targeting the thousands of acres of drought and wind tortured junipers and other conifers here in the west. @rockm is right on this, at least as far as the west is concerned. I have no familiarity with what other parts of the country offer.
Oh for crying out loud. No it's not. I don't see thousands of collectors out there digging up trees. Maybe a hundred (at the outside) collecting a dozen trees a piece on 345 million square acres (only a tenth of the total U.S. land base, BTW) of BLM land, add in another 1.3 billion square acres of privately owned land...yeah, quite a dent in the tree population.
I’ve got my eye on a couple of hornbeam around the corner from mine. They are technically in the car park border of a well known UK based supermarket, but their grounds maintenance guys have been treating them the same as the adjacent privet hedges and have just been hammering them back with trimmers a few times a year for at least 14 years now. As a result they have pretty good taper and a mass of ramified branches, but they are gradually gonna go down hill with that treatment year after year… at least that’s my justification. Maybe one day il liberate them!I’ve just recently collected without permission from a site that is up for housing development, I wanted to ask but didn’t want to go through a lengthy process through emails etc or eventually be denied so just went for it and would of played dumb if I’d been caught!
"It's juuuuuust so hard. and they might say noooooo...".You realize this is a three year old toddler's argument, right?...yeah, here in adult land sometimes the answer is "No" and you do all the right things and you don't get what you want.I’ve just recently collected without permission from a site that is up for housing development, I wanted to ask but didn’t want to go through a lengthy process through emails etc or eventually be denied so just went for it and would of played dumb if I’d been caught!
I’ve just recently collected without permission from a site that is up for housing development, I wanted to ask but didn’t want to go through a lengthy process through emails etc or eventually be denied so just went for it and would of played dumb if I’d been caught!
Bit like stealing from a shop ( people steal from my business all the time - we have over 20 live cameras which record all the footage )
I could be wrong but 'I’ve just recently collected without permission from a site that is up for housing development' that comes across to me as if these trees are going to be destroyed/removed to make way for a housing project. maybe they wouldnt be missed in that case, so bit different from walking into a shop and pocketing a few items.
As far as I’m concerned I’ve done them a favour removing it as it’s all gonna be flattened anyway and I’m saving a tree of English heritage at the same time
it’s a crime in itself all that material is going to waste! It could be dug up and relocated around the town parks etc but no one gives 2 monkeys
