Collected Winged Elm

I love this trunk.

I'm going to join the chorus and suggest cedar elm. My winged elms look (to me) quite different - leaves, wings, and bark. Winged elm bark is very flaky and loose. Wings even from the beginning, are grey, and they stay even with old growth.
 
Bonsai Nut said:
I love this trunk.

I'm going to join the chorus and suggest cedar elm. My winged elms look (to me) quite different - leaves, wings, and bark. Winged elm bark is very flaky and loose. Wings even from the beginning, are grey, and they stay even with old growth.
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I think your probably right, but I have folks whose opinion I respect tell me both. I think the culture is identical and I appreciate it as a nice native elm. Whatever it is they make great bonsai - they take well to the culture and ramify quickly.

Scott
 
I like the tree a lot. Thanks for the informative posts. I would think a runner (sacrifice) on the lower right and lower left branch could help them to build some thickness. What is your opinion about that?
 
dirk hoorelbeke said:
I like the tree a lot. Thanks for the informative posts. I would think a runner (sacrifice) on the lower right and lower left branch could help them to build some thickness. What is your opinion about that?
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Thanks Dirk. On a tree of this size and age, a basal runner would have to get huge to have a material affect on the circumference of the tree. However, the secondary trunk needs to get a lot thicker to be believable- I'll use sacrifice runners to do that.

Scott
 
Thanks just.wing.it

Whether Cedar or Winged, it's coming along nicely. A real testament to how quickly these trees develop. I'll be picking out a pot for it during this repotting season and getting it ready for a show in 2018. It's never been shown before and that will be a fun challenge. Two more growing seasons.

Scott
 
markyscott said:
Thanks Dirk. On a tree of this size and age, a basal runner would have to get huge to have a material affect on the circumference of the tree. However, the secondary trunk needs to get a lot thicker to be believable- I'll use sacrifice runners to do that.

Scott
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Yes, what i meant was for thickening the secondary trunk and the lower left branch. The top will get dense fast imo.
 
So on a number of threads I've discussed what I've learned about developing deciduous material. The lessons have been hard learned and I've had to UNLEARN a lot of things too. But they're simple lessons - build structure first, don't pinch until structure is in place, cut back in fall, wire in spring and summer, thin the leaves to let light into the interior of the tree to keep the little buds healthy, cut shoots growing from underneath the branches, keep horizontal shoots and shoots issuing from the top of the branches, etc. Many, many lessons. I thought you might enjoy a short lecture from Boon while we were working on this elm in which he discusses on how to perform a fall cut back when you prune for structure. He gave me permission to share it with you - I'm sure I'll watch this many times. Enjoy!


Scott
 
Scott,

Thanks for sharing this. I had a hard time getting my head around what Boon was saying. What was he saying would encourage back-budding vs. what would encorage new growth at the end? Would you mind paraphrasing?

Scott
 
pweifan said:
Scott,

Thanks for sharing this. I had a hard time getting my head around what Boon was saying. What was he saying would encourage back-budding vs. what would encorage new growth at the end? Would you mind paraphrasing?

Scott
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I think he was just saying this - cutting back strong shoots will encourage back budding and cutting back weak shoots will encourage more growth at the tips.

Scott
 
Thank you! That was piece I was missing :)

Edit: Beautiful tree by the way. I don't mean to gloss over the great work you've done. I'm just trying to absorb as much as possible and I get single minded.
 
I just collected a winged elm from the woods ,
People are putting glass bottles on its branches and using it for target practice .
So I decided to relieve them from their bottle holder .
Hopefully it survives ,I like a good story behind collected trees .
It Didn't have as many feeder roots as I wanted but all I can do is try .
I'm new to the bonsai lifestyle And I really enjoyed reading the story of yours .
 

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Bonsailane said:
I just collected a winged elm from the woods ,
People are putting glass bottles on its branches and using it for target practice .
So I decided to relieve them from their bottle holder .
Hopefully it survives ,I like a good story behind collected trees .
It Didn't have as many feeder roots as I wanted but all I can do is try .
I'm new to the bonsai lifestyle And I really enjoyed reading the story of yours .
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Good luck - they're strong trees and it may be ok. They're fun trees to work on - I hope you have as much fun with yours as I have with mine.
 
Thanks,, I'm new to bonsai nut ,,,
How do I post my own story like you did hear ?
 
In the upper-right hand corner of a given forum is a button that says "Post New Thread" Welcome to the nut house! :)
 
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