Climate change and bonsai

[Woocash]

No it's not. The government has beern stealing from it for years but the next time you get a pay check look at the deductions. Most of those deductions are called FICA and that's your SSI contributions. If you think SSI is government give away you are being conned. The government is bribing you with your own money.

I don’t think you understand what socialism is. Take our NHS, for example, which is a social programme. Part of our taxes (2nd in amount only to our benefits (social security) system) goes into funding our Healthcare system. Which means that every man, woman and child gets free access to healthcare. Some services, such as dentistry, prescriptions etc are only supplemented, but that makes monthly prescriptions a maximum of only £9.15.

Obviously higher earners have contributed more to the system, because they pay more taxes, but it works on a social level because regardless of your wealth, background, employment or credit rating you can get healthcare and not have to stress about how your cancer treatment will bankrupt you etc or paying hundreds of thousands because some drunk drove into you. That’s what socialism can be. It’s not all “commies” and layabouts.

 

[Harunobu]

Trump supporters need to stop whining. Biden will pardon Trump and he won't have to go to jail for all his crimes. But you as a Trump supporter are just as fucked as before 'Trump drained the swamp'.
But now you have a whole bunch of representatives and senators that have become confederate grifters trying to suspend US democracy. You can vote for them and continue this faux 'culture war'.

Are you tired of winning yet?

WTF are you guys even doing to your own country?



Oh, and on 'socialism', the biggest 'socialist' project in human history is located in the US. And by 'socialist' I mean taxpayer funded for the general good of society. Yes, it is also per capita the biggest, in case you would object. Fully government funded, very little oversight, and free of any free market mechanisms.

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Folks I've let this thread meander for too long. We're no longer talking about bonsai OR climate change, but just punching each other over politics.

I'm going to shut down the thread so we can get on with talking about trees.