Any thoughts on growing mini jade as bonsai?

Our Lowes does have a pretty decent plant collection - will have to check. Thanks.
 
Firstflush...pretty cool!

Justwingit....where do all those wires attach - just on the bottom of the pot somewhere? By the way - that pot looks EXACTLY like the one I have that the fukien came in!

What I'm seeing in the pics...are these crassula or portulacaria? What I'd hope to avoid here is to have this coming out looking like simply another jade plant only in a bonsai pot. Plus I really like the small leaves - not sure there is any way to do that with crassula (?) I'd like to also be able to try some training / shaping, etc. but I have NO experience with any sort of wiring, root pruning, and so forth. The fukien, of course, came with wiring - which I really never touched other than when I had to cut it (at the bottom where it was all connected) to take it out and transplant (hoping it would come back - not successful though). I did rewire it back in the best I could.

Must all wiring go through the pot and out the bottom holes like was the case with mine? There are two small screens in the pot - one above each hole. I think I had one wire running through both of them and out the bottom so the screens stayed in position above the drainage holes. Other than that, I've always just been a houseplant guy so much of this is new to me.

From what I see here, looks like, if using crassula, you pretty much cut the leaves back to the stem, thus encouraging smaller growth.
The guy wires I think you're referring to are wrapped around the feet of the pot.
I also wire it normally too.
 
Needs an update but still doing well in the same pot.
 
I'm going to experiment with this - does sound like a cool project. Just have to decide if I want to go with some cuttings of crassula (readily abundant from my fairly large plant) or pick up a portulacariana. Then also have to decide between my usual potting mix, cactus/succulent soil, or bonsai soil.
 
Needs an update but still doing well in the same pot.

Looks good! I can see how you've gotten the leaves to eventually get smaller by constantly pinching back - at least I suspect that's what you've done. They look smaller than normal crassula. "Spekboom"...what a cool name!! I see the leaves are high in vitamin C. If I'm not successful at growing it, can always chop it up in salads 😁 What I find truly amazing is that crassula and portulacariana are not at all related given the reasonably similar leaf shape and also for the fact that p. is referred to as "mini jade". Glad I got into researching this.
 
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What I'm seeing in the pics...are these crassula or portulacaria? What I'd hope to avoid here is to have this coming out looking like simply another jade plant only in a bonsai pot. Plus I really like the small leaves - not sure there is any way to do that with crassula (?)

From what I see here, looks like, if using crassula, you pretty much cut the leaves back to the stem, thus encouraging smaller growth.
Here are 2 cuttings of crassula.
At left one off my 20 yr. old jade.
At right, one that came off my ikea crassulas.
Quite a difference. Seems like a dwarf jade and not p. Afra. Anyone?
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Here are 2 cuttings of crassula.
At left one off my 20 yr. old jade.
At right, one that came off my ikea crassulas.
Quite a difference. Seems like a dwarf jade and not p. Afra. Anyone?
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Some variation in leaf size can be due to conditions, but I definitely have a true "dwarf Jade" (Crassula) that looks like the one on the right. I believe the variety is named C. ovata 'minima'.
 
Some variation in leaf size can be due to conditions, but I definitely have a true "dwarf Jade" (Crassula) that looks like the one on the right. I believe the variety is named C. ovata 'minima'.
Ahah. This makes sense. No matter how I cut back my others over the years, I’ve never been able to reduce leaf size comparable to The dwarf size.
 
Yeah, that does make a lot of sense. I've been wondering about all this. So we have a "minima" thrown into the mix yet. My Lowe's doesn't have any p. so I've decided to work with my crassula cuttings - took about 10 of them while watering plants this morning - 2 larger ones that will be sort of a main center stem( in two different bonsai pots) and then several on either side - so I'm thinking in terms of a 'jade bonsai forest'. The one pot I have, however, has no drainage. It's a really cool pot, so I'd like to try it. Will put a layer of stones on the bottom and see what happens. I'm not big on non-draining pots for any plants, but no cost involved for this project anyway. Purely an experiment.

In looking at the cutting on the right - even though it is very likely a dwarf variety as mentioned - it also appears as though it has really been pinched back. Looks like 3 (or 4?) smaller stems branch off from the main one but then there are also secondary (even smaller) stems. Was the whole plant like that when you got it, i.e. branching into progressively smaller and multiple-leafed ends?
 
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Ahah. This makes sense. No matter how I cut back my others over the years, I’ve never been able to reduce leaf size comparable to The dwarf size.

Guess I'll find out! So here we go.....probably won't even use all these. I thought the two on the right are good candidates for the center in each pot. Once I get these started in the pots, would it be advisable to pinch back ALL the leaves along the sides of the stems (I've seen a website where this was actually done) or just start working with pinching the tops / new growth? I already pinched off all the leaves on the bottom 1-2 inches of each cutting. I'm thinking get 'em established first before any heavy pruning. With this multiple stem / forest idea, I'm thinking I may not wind up doing much if any wiring (?)

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You need holes in pots. Lookie here.🕵️‍♀️

I know....as I said, I'm not a fan of any pots without holes and have drilled my share of holes already - but never in ceramic. I do have a bit that would likely work - would hate to destroy the pot though. BTW...you've got some really neat plants there!
 
I know....as I said, I'm not a fan of any pots without holes and have drilled my share of holes already - but never in ceramic. I do have a bit that would likely work - would hate to destroy the pot though. BTW...you've got some really neat plants there!
you can start with a small masonry bit from the inside drilling out. Back the side of the pot you will be drilling trough with a wood block or something. This way you won’t get chip out. Finish with desired diameter of masonry bit. Using water as you drill helps.
 
The Jade tree is a really cool plant and reproduces very easily, every year I cut a few branches from plants that are too big to replant them directly into smaller pots , and it succeeds every time.

Exemple , this one comes from a big plant that i couldn't move anymore , you just have to find an effective way to fix them together , so that it doesn't move .

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The Jade tree is a really cool plant and reproduces very easily, every year I cut a few branches from plants that are too big to replant them directly into smaller pots , and it succeeds every time.

Exemple , this one comes from a big plant that i couldn't move anymore , you just have to find an effective way to fix them together , so that it doesn't move .

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I like this group! May I ask, How long do u let cuttings this size callus before sticking em in soil?
 
you can start with a small masonry bit from the inside drilling out. Back the side of the pot you will be drilling trough with a wood block or something. This way you won’t get chip out. Finish with desired diameter of masonry bit. Using water as you drill helps.

I determined there is about 1/4" to go through. The inside (bottom) of the pot curves up compared to the bottom, so measuring the two distances showed how thick it is. A flat bottom (and thinner) would be easier. I don't get a great feeling about it and really would be sorry to break it. There are depressions from the inside that go down into each of the 4 legs, so I considered maybe trying to drill through them, but that might not go well either. Supporting the bottom is a great idea.
 
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