Another Mirai Tree Sale in a few days

I would prefer to have one that I did myself that 'looks' like a mirai tree.
Yeah, me too. I’d like to have a collection full of THOSE.

But to have one tree that is actually from Mirai on the bench I think would be fun, and interesting. An honor and a privilege!
 
What is crazy is that Ryan had said repeatedly that his intent for Mirai is not to sell trees, but to provide us the tools so that our trees can look the best. Stating that he could create trees left and right and sell them, but that does not what give him the same pleasure as seeing his students creating the trees as well. Some of the trees he used in the last streams were actually created by some of his students. And he gives them credit for what they have done. Everything with a brand name next to it will inherently carry the weight of that name into it. I seriously dislike designer brands, my wife spends buck-load of money in her Louis Vuitton purses, and I look at them and can't see where all that money is spent on, other than the prestige of the man itself. At least Ryan is passing on his knowledge (albeit for a price) for us to learn from, to emulate, or to evolve into whatever possible. There are a few others out there that will command similar prices when their trees end up on sale. For example, I can see Sergio's trees up there as well.
 
Yeah, me too. I’d like to have a collection full of THOSE.

But to have one tree that is actually from Mirai on the bench I think would be fun, and interesting. An honor and a privilege!
Depends on the tree and how much you spent on it I guess hey.
I'd definitely feel more accomplished bringing my own trees to that level.

Im sure you could have a collection full of those with dedication and belief.
 
What is crazy is that Ryan had said repeatedly that his intent for Mirai is not to sell trees, but to provide us the tools so that our trees can look the best. Stating that he could create trees left and right and sell them, but that does not what give him the same pleasure as seeing his students creating the trees as well. Some of the trees he used in the last streams were actually created by some of his students. And he gives them credit for what they have done. Everything with a brand name next to it will inherently carry the weight of that name into it. I seriously dislike designer brands, my wife spends buck-load of money in her Louis Vuitton purses, and I look at them and can't see where all that money is spent on, other than the prestige of the man itself. At least Ryan is passing on his knowledge (albeit for a price) for us to learn from, to emulate, or to evolve into whatever possible. There are a few others out there that will command similar prices when their trees end up on sale. For example, I can see Sergio's trees up there as well.
Thats a big word there. while its understandable that so many are in 'awe' of this great work, more should be trying to emulate and not feeling like this pinnacle of bonsai is out of reach unless you have the money to buy one he's worked on. its a general feeling im getting around here.
 
I've got a separate bank account that I funnel small amounts of money into now and then as a tree account for someday when I retire and I really can devote the time I want to my trees. Then I will buy one or two really nice trees to enjoy if I find one that I want. Probably wont be $10,000 but maybe $1,000 if the right tree presents itself.
That's called a "slush fund". I have one as well. In two separate banks. The important thing is that my wife knows they exist. ;)

I would prefer to have one that I did myself that 'looks' like a mirai tree.
This this and all this.
 
I will say, silverberry throws off the longest, ramrod straight, long internode growth, anyone who can keep one as a bonsai deserves some props.
I've got one, and I don't honestly think they are bad at all. You just have to defoliate, wire, repeat. They hold wired position very well, and the young growth is super forgiving to wire.

However I just looked at photos of my tree and photos of the Mirai tree, and the leaves of the Mirai tree are crazy small. Looking at the leaves, I thought the tree would be 24" or so. It is only 12" tall. Those leaves are like boxwood leaf small. Now I want to know who bought it so I can get some cuttings, LOL! So if you bought it - send me a PM stat! :)

NOT a Mirai tree :) Still in early development (in a 15 3/4" Anderson flat - so you can imagine how small a 12" silverberry is)
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Call me overly sensitive, but I don't like the way this tree is giving me the finger.
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Okay, so it's got a small flaw on the back right side of the tree, which is invisible from the front (below). That doesn't seem like a serious flaw or bad collection technique. You were pretty vehement that this was exceedingly poorly done

I still only see dramatic taper and purposeful exaggeration of vertical proportions. There's somehwat underdeveloped foliage, but this is a tree that's developing it's secondary branches. Arguably it's a mislabelled species, though the pond cypress/bald cypress species distinction is up for scientific debate. Not sure that the specific species changes much of the horticulture that corresponds to it. What am I missing?

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I see roots that have been chopped when collected, and the chops are visible in the composition

Good point. I missed that when originally looking at the tree. Still doesn't seem like a severe flaw -- you just need to raise the soil level a little and let the nebari spread a little more to help disguise that
 
Good point. I missed that when originally looking at the tree. Still doesn't seem like a severe flaw -- you just need to raise the soil level a little and let the nebari spread a little more to help disguise that
I only noticed it too after Leatherback pointed it out. But I actually quite like this composition, but I honestly couldnt of told you it was a pond cypress and not a bald one:)
you can do two things, either raise the soil level, or smooth it out with carving or knob cutters so that it slopes down into the soil. Maybe just indictative of a tree in training only 3 years.

I honestly dont think some of the people who are buying these trees are spotting these little 'nuances'
Yes I said 'nuances':cool:
 
Its great that Ryan is elevating the art of Bonsai in terms of appreciation - I hope the buyers are committed to the care of their trees.
I like a few of the junipers, especially the number 1. The Spruce and Larch make me feel very good about my 4 and 2yr old trees. I dislike the look of the Scots pine, it's as atypical of the species as Bjorns helmet Scots.
I wouldn't be buying but I enjoyed the window shopping!
 
Where is @Adair M ? Do you not see all of these trees are mounded? You been awfully quite lately. Too many trees to tend to I guess?
 
The pond cypress is a good example of how shallow that pot is. Is that the ultimate goal of bonsai is to try to get it into the shallowest pot one can? Would it look better in a deeper pot that has soil cover the root ends that was chopped during collection? All the other trees are also in shallow pot with nebari about half a meter above it.
 
That's called a "slush fund". I have one as well. In two separate banks. The important thing is that my wife knows they exist. ;)

You call it "slush fund" (sounds so deceptive ;)). Ill call it my "bonsai fund".
Mine isnt a secret either, but he spends way more than I do on his hobbies 😁
Our mantra is, as long as the bills are paid and we have food on the table, saving what we should for the future its all good.
Have to enjoy some of it before you get too old to
 
Okay, so it's got a small flaw on the back right side of the tree, which is invisible from the front (below). That doesn't seem like a serious flaw or bad collection technique. You were pretty vehement that this was exceedingly poorly done

I still only see dramatic taper and purposeful exaggeration of vertical proportions. There's somehwat underdeveloped foliage, but this is a tree that's developing it's secondary branches. Arguably it's a mislabelled species, though the pond cypress/bald cypress species distinction is up for scientific debate. Not sure that the specific species changes much of the horticulture that corresponds to it. What am I missing?
I see roots that have been chopped when collected, and the chops are visible in the composition
I only noticed it too after Leatherback pointed it out. But I actually quite like this composition, but I honestly couldnt of told you it was a pond cypress and not a bald one:)
you can do two things, either raise the soil level, or smooth it out with carving or knob cutters so that it slopes down into the soil. Maybe just indictative of a tree in training only 3 years.

I honestly dont think some of the people who are buying these trees are spotting these little 'nuances'
Yes I said 'nuances':cool:
@Wood the knee giving the finger is just a bit of humor (rather small bit). @leatherback has the right of it. The tree's roots were cut too close to the trunk leaving stumps. I suppose @BobbyLane has a point with "nuances", but for me, it's almost the first thing I will notice, and did notice with this tree. Raising the soil level is one way to fix it. If you think the tree is potted high in the pot, this makes that worse. Knob cutters are not recommended to just carve this down. You'll want to remove some of the root's interior as well.

Carve a channel in the top of the root. Start at the end of the stump with a grinding tool 6-10mm wide (1/4" to 3/8"). Round off the top end of the root. As the root heals over, it develops a very interesting scar. This can be used to correct roots that were cut too close to the trunk or flutes that extend too far from the trunk.

Here's my sketch (this made me squirm the entire time I was drawing it)

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Yes cutting the channel down the root is another method, I have also done that before.
 
Like I said folks. Live sales create hype in people like no other sale out there. The exclusivity, fear of missing out, and the lure of the hunt get most people going.
 
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