A Barrel of Scots Scotch (Pines that is)

[Quince]

According to wikipedia P. resinosa is North America's only representative of the Eurasian Red and Black pine group (same subgenus, same section) so it should be a very good match for Scot's and mugo. I have been thinking about low grafting JBP to P. resinosa just to see if I could combine the hardiness of the first with the responsiveness of the later.

 

[Soldano666]

According to wikipedia P. resinosa is North America's only representative of the Eurasian Red and Black pine group (same subgenus, same section) so it should be a very good match for Scot's and mugo. I have been thinking about low grafting JBP to P. resinosa just to see if I could combine the hardiness of the first with the responsiveness of the later.

Thats the answers I was looking for thanks @Quince .., I reckon ill give some approach grafts a go next spring andd see how it goes

 

[Soldano666]

Went cone collecting today under a few trees in a park near me. Snagged a couple pics for some inspiration

 

[petegreg]

Thought to share my biggest raw Scots pine. You know that feeling if you park your Matiz next to M class Mercedes. Or your little shohin trees are shaded by large ones at a local show...
So I collected this one because of bark an size. From the first moment I've been aware of how challenging this is gonna be. Most of branches were of not so suitable thickness or position. Decided to remove all but one and build the tree from a single branch. Spent two years removing unwanted branches. Now it needs 2+ years to be ready for some work. After I'm sure which front...I'll start playing with deadwood. Doable, what would you say?

 

[M. Frary]

Thought to share my biggest raw Scots pine. You know that feeling if you park your Matiz next to M class Mercedes. Or your little shohin trees are shaded by large ones at a local show...
So I collected this one because of bark an size. From the first moment I've been aware of how challenging this is gonna be. Most of branches were of not so suitable thickness or position. Decided to remove all but one and build the tree from a single branch. Spent two years removing unwanted branches. Now it needs 2+ years to be ready for some work. After I'm sure which front...I'll start playing with deadwood. Doable, what would you say?
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I have a couple I'm going to do this to.

 

[my nellie]

... ...Doable, what would you say?

Doable I'd say.

 

[petegreg]

Doable I'd say.

Thanks for encouraging. Changed my mind, after considering how the top branch is stiff, the tree is 2 seasons after collecting...deed done, just one serious bend.




...and I like looking under the hood from the back.

Now I'll be waiting for a spring response and she's got three years to grow till repotted.

 

[LanceMac10]

Can you put the first picture in a "thumbnail"? Perhaps then you can see the whole image in it's entirety, as opposed to having to scroll a bit, top to bottom?

Visually, the uppermost dead wood seems a little heavy, visually. But there is always time to refine it.
The apex of the foliage, the one shoot wired back towards the trunk? Seems to give me confused sensations....
I wonder if carving a deadwood feature on a trunk, small bits at a time, as opposed to a massive go all at once approach, will give a more natural appearance.
Maybe lose the deadwood branch lowest on the trunk? Not sure it helps much, seems a weebit puny?

I love it, by the way. I can feel your thoughtfulness coming thru.

Too early for a cocktail?

 

[petegreg]

Can you put the first picture in a "thumbnail"? Perhaps then you can see the whole image in it's entirety, as opposed to having to scroll a bit, top to bottom?

Visually, the uppermost dead wood seems a little heavy, visually. But there is always time to refine it.
The apex of the foliage, the one shoot wired back towards the trunk? Seems to give me confused sensations....
I wonder if carving a deadwood feature on a trunk, small bits at a time, as opposed to a massive go all at once approach, will give a more natural appearance.
Maybe lose the deadwood branch lowest on the trunk? Not sure it helps much, seems a weebit puny?

I love it, by the way. I can feel your thoughtfulness coming thru.

Too early for a cocktail?

Sure, after first styling...no cocktails.

Good points, Lance. I had some debate on our local forum. Tilting it to the left too.

Deadwood will have to wait a season or two. Have to order The Bonsai Deadwood book and study. Is that book good, I know the author has a good reputation? I know it would be better to do it ASAP to have it weathered nicely and naturally sooner. Some people can create nice deadwood in one go... The top jin might be removed and cleaned to make a nice natural transition from the trunk to the new top. The rest of jins, I'll see... All considered.

Those branches, well, wired to open the canopy and inicial curves set, for now. You know, if I have good backbudding some of them will be shortened, some of them are ready to cross the trunk if there's a need.
The pictures are far from good, taken indoors, foggy mornings.

 

[Wilson]

Nice one @petegreg ! Good future for this one.

 

[0soyoung]

The pictures are far from good, ...

Maybe so (though I don't think so), but it is clear that the tree is quite nice.

 

[petegreg]

Thank you all for kind words.

 

[Soldano666]

A dwarf variety scots called Jeremy. Its hard to tell but the needles are only about 3/4 of an inch long. I've had this tree for a couple years now, it is grafted and the union is a a mess, I plan to graft on some seedlings to the root stock and lessen the bulge. Right now its hidden by the fat wire. I was hoping that would help create some bulges and scarring. To hide the graft joint. But its a slow grower and that might take a long time, so I now plan to graft on some new roots and make a bigger exposed nebari. What I have done is reduced the giant globe of foliage it came with and gave it a repot into this pondbasket this past summer. I still have some stuff to cut out and clean up but will let it rest after wiring today,

 

[petegreg]

...it is grafted and the union is a a mess, I plan to graft on some seedlings to the root stock and lessen the bulge. Right now its hidden by the fat wire...

From my point of view that's not so bad. Some well targeted carving or scaring the trunk below the bulge could help to heal the problem. But you're saying slow grower, then expect improvements to come slowly. Nice little tree.

 

[Wilson]

@Soldano666 it has future potential for sure! I have a couple dwarf scots, tiny foliage 1/2" ! Works great for smaller, slow growers.

 

[herzausstahl]

Maybe so (though I don't think so), but it is clear that the tree is quite nice.

Looks like he followed Vance's advice to me, dark neutral background & front lighting. Looks good to me too!

 

[Mihai]

Heyya guys.
Collected this from a cliff on a mountain ridge. Maybe collected is a strong word... lifted it up is more accurate. All the rootball was lodged is a shallow depression in the rock so I basically lifted it up with 100% rootball.
Thinking twin trunk literati if it aclimates and doesn't keel over on me.
And I should thank the lady wife for providing the background ).

 

[Vance Wood]

Heyya guys.
Collected this from a cliff on a mountain ridge. Maybe collected is a strong word... lifted it up is more accurate. All the rootball was lodged is a shallow depression in the rock so I basically lifted it up with 100% rootball.
Thinking twin trunk literati if it aclimates and doesn't keel over on me.
And I should thank the lady wife for providing the background ).
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Very fortunate find on your behalf. Scots will back bud on old wood if you get the tree healthy.

 

[M. Frary]

Heyya guys.
Collected this from a cliff on a mountain ridge. Maybe collected is a strong word... lifted it up is more accurate. All the rootball was lodged is a shallow depression in the rock so I basically lifted it up with 100% rootball.
Thinking twin trunk literati if it aclimates and doesn't keel over on me.
And I should thank the lady wife for providing the background ).
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It looks like you found a nice tree.
I would have it in a heartbeat.

 

[Hannahmm]

Hey, I like scotch!! .....oh wait you are not talking about the alcohol??