All aboard the Mugo train!

[Adair M]

That's horrible news indeed.
The man in the rubber suit was the real Godzilla.

The first one was made of concrete! There was a rubber shortage in Japanin the post war era.

 

[sorce]

Ok @Vance Wood ......

I've been on your side for two years now in regards to these Mugo....

But I'm starting to think those people were right....

I found a couple flaws in your teaching...

One....
I barerooted this tree...
Which is supposed to kill a pine....

But this one lived....

I understand..WE SHOULDN'T bareroot them.

What I'm really upset about is this...

You say to REMOVE a branch...
Cut it back to an inch...

But how the hell am I supposed to remove this branch of it keeps growing?


Clearly these trees don't respond well to Bonsai techniques!



I'm gonna throw all mine out!

That was All Sarcasm for those who don't know.

Seriously.
I don't recommend barerooting a Mugo.
But if the Nebari is crap....do it on fathers day.

I haven't found a time I can do this to an elm in my area with certainty of life.

I will continue to leave a stub as you are supposed to.

But how surprised was I to see that backbudding!

GSH!

Love these trees!

Sorce

 

[LanceMac10]

Let's have some fun......

Just in case....


Yikes.....no sickle here, don't wanna' mess with the roots......


Sniff, sniff......



Let's see what happens.....

 

[Vance Wood]

Let's have some fun......

Just in case....
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Yikes.....no sickle here, don't wanna' mess with the roots......
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Sniff, sniff......
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Let's see what happens.....
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Can I offer a couple of observations/suggestions about this tree and not offend you?

 

[LanceMac10]

Can I offer a couple of observations/suggestions about this tree and not offend you?

Offend away!

 

[sorce]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahayahahahahahahahahahayayah!

Offend Lance.....

Offending Lance is like Not offending one of four....ah nevermind!

Sorce

 

[Vance Wood]

You have done something with this cascade that drives me up a wall. You have designed this tree in the rabbit snare style cascade. I would prefer to see the base of the tree more toward the forward edge of the pot, opposite of where you have it and the cascade a bit more abrupt as though broken not simply bent. I know this is just personal preference but there ya go.

 

[tree4me]

Update...5 weeks after repotting and signs of new life and the passing of a branch or 2 or 3

#1

#2

 

[LanceMac10]

Think I just caught strike three......

 

[Vance Wood]

Did you lose your trees?

 

[sorce]

Did you lose your trees?

Just his pride.

Lol!

Sorce

 

[Soldano666]

Tree4me you dont need those branches and its way too soon for you lance. I'm with the sorcerer and bare rooted one. Hasn't skipped a beat 5 weeks later.

 

[Vance Wood]

Update...5 weeks after repotting and signs of new life and the passing of a branch or 2 or 3

#1
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#2
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How much sun does this tree receive daily? What kind of soil mix? Do you know which sub species this Mugo is?

 

[Quince]

Yes, but it's also baisic tradititional horticulture. Every year between the beginning of Aprill and the middle of May is a magical time when I can get away with almost anything in the landscape. Divide transplant or seed and it thrives with minimal after care. This naturally caries over to our hobby. As we all know, most deciduous trees really do prefer a spring transplant. It is only recently that we are starting to discover the exceptions. It is an addendum, not a reason to throw out the book.

So I've been eating some humble pie, and I think it's time to follow up on this post.
This morning I took a look at my success rate with trees that were newly collected or received extensive root work / bare root.
Of the 18 mostly deciduous trees I worked on this spring, 11 are still with me.
Of the 13 trees I worked on this summer, or after leafing out, 12 are doing well.
I also noticed a big difference between the pines I repotted around the solstice and those repotted several weeks later. The first batch limped along for a month and I lost a tree. The second batch has not skipped a beat.
Maybe there is something to this summer potting thing after all.

 

[Vance Wood]

So I've been eating some humble pie, and I think it's time to follow up on this post.
This morning I took a look at my success rate with trees that were newly collected or received extensive root work / bare root.
Of the 18 mostly deciduous trees I worked on this spring, 11 are still with me.
Of the 13 trees I worked on this summer, or after leafing out, 12 are doing well.
I also noticed a big difference between the pines I repotted around the solstice and those repotted several weeks later. The first batch limped along for a month and I lost a tree. The second batch has not skipped a beat.
Maybe there is something to this summer potting thing after all.

Don't tell any body that is bonsai heresy.

 

[tree4me]

How much sun does this tree receive daily? What kind of soil mix? Do you know which sub species this Mugo is?

They get full sun from about 11 am to 6 pm, 50/50 org./inorg., the label only read pinus mugo.

 

[mattspinniken]

A little update on my Mugo, still only been ferting and watering. Maybe this angle instead

 

[mattspinniken]

Here's a better background

 

[Soldano666]

From page 97 of the train is this sacrifice I wired up and believe I found my new trunk line. The first pic is from the initial wiring and the second is the branch tips response to the trim and wire treatment. Lots of feed and lots of sun. lotsa buds to choose from for next year

 

[Vance Wood]

View attachment 156675 Here's a better background

Great Mugo. Is this a recent collection or have you had it for a while? Looks really good. I wish you could have made it down for our club show this weekend, we had a blast.