Trident seedlings planted through tiles, progression thread

[Tbrshou]

Nope. Not from Germany. I just live here.

Yep I got that all wrong as usual

 

[small trees]

This tree grew well last year and I'm trying to decide what I like as a front and where I would like to make a chop. I would like some input from you guys as to what you would do. I thought about just a low chop, but there is slight movement in the tree that could allow me to make a chop further up.

 

[small trees]

Also, here's the other tree mentioned in the first couple pages.

 

[leatherback]

where I would like to make a chop

I think a lower first chop would have helped. But.. I doubt you are thinking about chopping below the first chop you made?

A shame you did not clean up the original chop: It would have closed over more or less by now. Instead you have a big swelling there. So that would be one of the actions: Clean that up and remove the shoulder it created.

Somehow I do not see another direction than a fairly formal upright. The wide nebari and near-vertical straight first trunk session make it unrealistic for me to see something else.. Maybe consider one of the smaller branches at the previous chop as continuation of the trunkline?

 

[clem]

This tree grew well last year and I'm trying to decide what I like as a front and where I would like to make a chop. I would like some input from you guys as to what you would do. I thought about just a low chop, but there is slight movement in the tree that could allow me to make a chop further up.

i like the nebari and the conicity & nice curve of the 1rst section of the trunk. I would cut the right side of the trunk, to avoid a swelling. If there is a branch correctly emerging inside the green circle, it would be cool to build the futur trunk line with this branch imo

 

[Corrado]

Clem has it partially right. I agree no low chop,but utilize that continued narrower trunk about 6 inches above the old cut. perhaps with a long tapered angled cut at the top. To me the trunk s the most important form to have correct. Youll be able to see which is the best view point afterwards-no rush. Love the nebari!!!

 

[small trees]

I think a lower first chop would have helped. But.. I doubt you are thinking about chopping below the first chop you made?

A shame you did not clean up the original chop: It would have closed over more or less by now. Instead you have a big swelling there. So that would be one of the actions: Clean that up and remove the shoulder it created.

Somehow I do not see another direction than a fairly formal upright. The wide nebari and near-vertical straight first trunk session make it unrealistic for me to see something else.. Maybe consider one of the smaller branches at the previous chop as continuation of the trunkline?

I made the chop last year when digging the tree to work the roots, and I intended to let it thicken a little more before I performed my first chop for taper. I haven't taken a low chop off of the table.

@clem @Corrado the image you posted was my other consideration for a chop. Like I said above, I had intended to make my first chop for taper this year, and so I left all of that growth alone. What I may do is make a chop similar to what you showed, take a look and a couple photos, and then decide if I want to go that route or it I want to start again lower.

 

[sorce]

i like the nebari and the conicity & nice curve of the 1rst section of the trunk. I would cut the right side of the trunk, to avoid a swelling. If there is a branch correctly emerging inside the green circle, it would be cool to build the futur trunk line with this branch imo
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I wouldn't hesitate to do this.

You have 2 or more "1st" branches, which means one can be a sacrifice to continue the base while you keep the actual 1st branch close and small, "viable"-BVF.

The second (high) cut, actually may be too high. Looks proportionally good now, but when the top of that old chop gets smoothed down, those 2 segments will be real close to the same length, so you might wanna go one branch down on the high cut.

Nice.

Sorce

 

[small trees]

I decided to go in the same direction you guys suggested. Took the snapshot of a video because I didn't take any stills. I'll wire that leader in a few weeks when sap starts flowing and it doesn't feel so brittle.

 

[clem]

Nice job, imo
if i were you, i'd wire the new crow to avoid the straight line (to give curves)

 

[small trees]

I will wire it soon, once sap is flowing a little more.