The 2024 Yamadori/Collecting Thread

[Orion_metalhead]

Killer finds!

Fingers crossed they make it through the winter well!!!

 

[The Barber]

Don't know about you guys, but I'm itching to start digging for trees. Weather the last few weeks has been trash on my days off, was hoping to hit the woods and check out some of the trees I'd hard chopped back in the spring that I haven't checked on since.

 

[Orion_metalhead]

I should be done for this year... Next year, we will see! Would love to get a few larger deciduous stock to work ok. Might be able to get up to PA and dig a few. Ill wait for the 2025 Yamadori/collecting thread lol.

 

[acj990]

Spent some time a few weeks ago before the temps dropped and collected an eastern red cedar and what I believe is an eastern hemlock. If you can help clarify, let me know. I can add some more pics. The state DNR gave me permission to collect a few trees in a local state park.

As far as winter care for collected trees of these cultivars, any tips would be appreciated. Temps have been in mid 20s overnight. They’re in larger pots and covered in burlap, currently residing in our 3 season back porch.

 

[Orion_metalhead]

Looks like it might be the 'Old Gold' cultivar? Hard to tell this time of year due to foliage color changing... Regardless they are very nice and I am certainly envious!

left: newly collected
right: old gold

 

[The Barber]

Spent some time a few weeks ago before the temps dropped and collected an eastern red cedar and what I believe is an eastern hemlock. If you can help clarify, let me know. I can add some more pics. The state DNR gave me permission to collect a few trees in a local state park.

As far as winter care for collected trees of these cultivars, any tips would be appreciated. Temps have been in mid 20s overnight. They’re in larger pots and covered in burlap, currently residing in our 3 season back porch.

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Yep, they appear to be Eastern Red Cedar and Eastern hemlock. Temps shouldn't bother them, or most natives, which is why I like natives so well, they already grow well in our regions. Just keep them out of the wind and don't let the soil dry out completely and you shouldn't have any issues other than possible issues in relation to collection. Though for better odds of survival, I'd try to protect the roots from hard freezes since they are newly collected. Every hemlock I have colleced has survived collecting during dormancy, even bare rooted and never missed a beat. Not sure about collecting before they go dormant though. For most species I prefer winter through early spring collection of trees.

 

[acj990]

Yep, they appear to be Eastern Red Cedar and Eastern hemlock. Temps shouldn't bother them, or most natives, which is why I like natives so well, they already grow well in our regions. Just keep them out of the wind and don't let the soil dry out completely and you shouldn't have any issues other than possible issues in relation to collection. Though for better odds of survival, I'd try to protect the roots from hard freezes since they are newly collected. Every hemlock I have colleced has survived collecting during dormancy, even bare rooted and never missed a beat. Not sure about collecting before they go dormant though. For most species I prefer winter through early spring collection of trees.

Roger that. Appreciate the direction. Wind chills are supposed to be below zero tonight, so they may go in the unheated garage for the evening. They stay out of the wind where they’re positioned currently.

Thanks again!

 

[The Barber]

Yeah, supposed to go from 52 earlier when I was outside and drop to 5°F with wind chill after it starts raining here in Kentucky as well. Gotta move some stuff around myself, those big temperature swings worry me worse than just being cold.

 

[stubmle]

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left: newly collected
right: old gold

Your Old Gold looks different from mine; mine are much less yellow and look more like the one on the left in your pic. TBH I sometimes have trouble telling my Old Golds apart from the 'Sea Green' cultivar you see everywhere. I have some of those too, a few in landscape and one in a pot. It's dark now, but I can get some pics in the morning to compare.

For the record, I wish mine looked like that! The gold foliage is really striking.

 

[acj990]

Yeah, supposed to go from 52 earlier when I was outside and drop to 5°F with wind chill after it starts raining here in Kentucky as well. Gotta move some stuff around myself, those big temperature swings worry me worse than just being cold.

In Eastern Iowa it’s currently 17 with a wind chill of -3. Ridiculous. Winds are gusting up to 55mph. All the trees plus my collected ones are safe and secure in the unheated garage.

 

[August44]

In Eastern Iowa it’s currently 17 with a wind chill of -3. Ridiculous. Winds are gusting up to 55mph. All the trees plus my collected ones are safe and secure in the unheated garage.

I lived in Clinton Iowa for 6 years. I saw weather that I had never seen before, and some of it was flat scary. I hate it when the sirens go off at night when you can't see anything outside.

 

[Gio_TYBG]

Here’s my go to tools for collecting after a few years of collecting on varying terrain.

Pulaski axe (fiber glass handle)

Hackzall (m18 FUEL ) w/ Diablo 3 tpi blades. High output battery is a must as well- 8.0 or greater. Easier to handle than Sawzall. Can one hand it.

Est Wing Geo/Paleo pick - highly recommend this one. light weight and breaks down rocky terrain/roots

Root slayer shovel

 

[RJG2]

Here’s my go to tools for collecting after a few years of collecting on varying terrain.

Pulaski axe (fiber glass handle)

Hackzall (m18 FUEL ) w/ Diablo 3 tpi blades. High output battery is a must as well- 8.0 or greater. Easier to handle than Sawzall. Can one hand it.

Est Wing Geo/Paleo pick - highly recommend this one. light weight and breaks down rocky terrain/roots

Root slayer shovel

I have the Hitachi/Metabo version of the hackzall - and I do not recommend it. The cutting stroke is so short it takes forever to get through anything.

I'm assuming the Milwaukee version is much better - Hitachi is just what I started with when I first started getting battery tools (I think at the time, they had very good battery warranties).

 

[The Barber]

I prefer the blades with teeth spaced closer for my sawzall, the "wood" blades like to just grab hold of the thick roots and shake the tree which is likely to damage all of the fine roots.

 

[Gio_TYBG]

I have the Hitachi/Metabo version of the hackzall - and I do not recommend it. The cutting stroke is so short it takes forever to get through anything.

I'm assuming the Milwaukee version is much better - Hitachi is just what I started with when I first started getting battery tools (I think at the time, they had very good battery warranties).

I hear you. Even the older hackzall/sawzall aren’t comparable to the newer ones. And I’m talking just 5+ years lol . Milwaukee’s tech just keeps improving

 

[Gio_TYBG]

I prefer the blades with teeth spaced closer for my sawzall, the "wood" blades like to just grab hold of the thick roots and shake the tree which is likely to damage all of the fine roots.

Aren’t you running into clogged blades though? I like to build a moat and just cut through from under (dirt and all) lol

 

[The Barber]

Aren’t you running into clogged blades though? I like to build a moat and just cut through from under (dirt and all) lol

Nah, not talking that fine, I just don't like to shake my trees so hard they pull off the fine roots with the native soil, which I've had happen too many times with the big tooth blades. I dig a ditch around my trees as well then tackle the bigger roots with the sawzall, bandsaw, or loppers.

 

[The Barber]

Meant to post this, here's my go to blade, still enough gap to avoid clog, unless the wood is extremely wet, and I find them to stay sharp longer and don't tend to grab the tree and just shake the hell out of it. If you look close they cut coming and going on this blade type. If this rain ever stops I may go dig some hornbeam today.

 

[Colorado]

Meant to post this, here's my go to blade, still enough gap to avoid clog, unless the wood is extremely wet, and I find them to stay sharp longer and don't tend to grab the tree and just shake the hell out of it. If you look close they cut coming and going on this blade type. If this rain ever stops I may go dig some hornbeam today.
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Nice, looks about like the ones I use. I LOVE my Dewalt sawzall. Thing is a beast lol. For the blades I use the Diablo brand and they are great.

“If the rain stops” ……excuses excuses. Are you going to melt?!

I am looking forward to getting out and collecting a big sagebrush in 2025 when the ground thaws in the spring!

 

[The Barber]

Nice, looks about like the ones I use. I LOVE my Dewalt sawzall. Thing is a beast lol. For the blades I use the Diablo brand and they are great.

“If the rain stops” ……excuses excuses. Are you going to melt?!

I am looking forward to getting out and collecting a big sagebrush in 2025 when the ground thaws in the spring!

Well, ended up not going, it ended up getting over 60 today, and rained most of the day. Opted for a nap instead. Tomorrow I shall try to motivate myself.